Wet 7018.

[Baby Grand]

so, am I correct in assuming that 70xx is the only rod that really needs to be in an oven? I also use 6010, and on a very rare occasion 6013, and I have a little stainless laying around, but it is my understanding that at least 6010 is fine moist.

I think you can weld with 6010 underwater ...

 

[SHORT KID]

After reading about rod ovens and keeping 7018's dry, I came up with a REDNECK oven at least for the winter. I have been away from welding for a long time so maybe I just need to visit the bathroom. I got a box of 7018's at Lowes to try them, made by Lincoln or at least have Lincoln on the box. The rod right out of the box, made me look like I never held a stinger. SOOOOOOO I got a big piece of tin foil and wrapped some rods in it and placed on top of my wood burner. When I got a chance try my luck again, the beads looked better. I guess the cardboard box they are in didn't do too well. So now I keep a couple on the stove, when I use them I put a couple more on.

 

[mikehaugen]

After reading about rod ovens and keeping 7018's dry, I came up with a REDNECK oven at least for the winter. I have been away from welding for a long time so maybe I just need to visit the bathroom. I got a box of 7018's at Lowes to try them, made by Lincoln or at least have Lincoln on the box. The rod right out of the box, made me look like I never held a stinger. SOOOOOOO I got a big piece of tin foil and wrapped some rods in it and placed on top of my wood burner. When I got a chance try my luck again, the beads looked better. I guess the cardboard box they are in didn't do too well. So now I keep a couple on the stove, when I use them I put a couple more on.

the "redneck" rod ovens I have heard of involved an refrigerator with a light bulb. Sounds easy enough, but I would like to have a little smaller box for them.

 

[Shield Arc]

Before I found good deals on rod ovens, I used one of those Little Chief smokers with a heat lamp in it that was given to me. 7018 just runs smoother when it is hot.

 

[Gary Fowler]

so, am I correct in assuming that 70xx is the only rod that really needs to be in an oven? I also use 6010, and on a very rare occasion 6013, and I have a little stainless laying around, but it is my understanding that at least 6010 is fine moist.

All the stainless steel rods I have ever used required hot storage. 60xx just need to be kept dry.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Before I found good deals on rod ovens, I used one of those Little Chief smokers with a heat lamp in it that was given to me. 7018 just runs smoother when it is hot.

Keeping 7018 in a box with a light bulb will help keep them from absorbing moisture but unless the temps stay above 212F they wont completely dry. I had the same set up as your photo but after about a year the rods were forming a white powder on them and some rust on the ends. That is when I saw the Craigslist ad for a 350# Phoenix oven for $150 IIRC. I was in Nigeria at the time and had to get my daughter to go pick it up for me, but is works as it is supposed to. I keep the thermo on 350F and its on 24-7. I am still using up the 300# that I got from my next door neighbor in Houston before I moved up to Ark 3 years ago. It takes a lot of repairs to burn that many rods, and I have about 3 more unopened 50# cans of 7018 and a couple cans of 6010 that my brother gave me.

 

[Rock knocker]

I was in Nigeria at the time

Did you get the $20 million out of the country OK?

 

[mikehaugen]

hope he wasn't trying to find the tractor he found on CL for $2k.

psst... it doesn't exist!

 

[Piperflyer]

Is it posssible to heat the rod that has been stored in its container for long periods with a torch to get the moisture out before using it and how will it run?

 

[kevin37b]

I really hate carpenters , especially trying to dig a hole and pour walls , They are the primo layout PEOPLE and always miss everything by a foot , too short .

 

[Rock knocker]

I really hate carpenters , especially trying to dig a hole and pour walls , They are the primo layout PEOPLE and always miss everything by a foot , too short .

Guess your rod didn't get wet?

 

[hddnis]

Yeah that was my point. I use to build bridges for a living, even concrete bridges have massive amounts of steel falsework. Something has to hold the concrete forms up right? I can't tell you how many times a carpenter type would leave the lid of the gang box open when it was raining and get the 7018 wet.
Like I said, I don't recommend doing this, but just because you don't have an oven don't worry too much!

That the new interchanges and flyover on 1-5 in Eugene?


Mr. HE

 

[Shield Arc]

I have no idea, I just grabbed those pictures off the Internet. Back when I was doing it, was way before the Internet, and when you do it for a living, who takes time to take pictures.

 

[hddnis]

I have no idea, I just grabbed those pictures off the Internet. Back when I was doing it, was way before the Internet, and when you do it for a living, who takes time to take pictures.

No problem. I suppose they all kind of look the same anywhere anyway. I thought maybe the clouds were a give-away. lol



Mr. HE

 

[Shield Arc]

I do have some pictures from when I was working, but I didn't take them. Engineers always seem to have more time for that kind of thing. :laughing:

 

[Gary Fowler]

Did you get the $20 million out of the country OK?

I assume you are referring to the scammers. You don't have that problem when there, they know no one in country has any money.

 

[Inkomodius]

Oh this brings me back to my bridge building days! Except it was all prefab in a shop with MC-6 wire and Nelson Stud Welders. Nelson studs. Thousands and thousands of nelson studs, Then bending one out of every seventh grouping. I don't miss my bridge building days hahaha. And we all know there are millions of tons of iron out there that is being held together with 7018 that wasn't baked. If its on pipe I would never use old rod, however if I have some old 7018 and there are some pilecaps to be done I know they will hold.

 

[Shield Arc]

I don't miss my bridge building days hahaha.

I liked building land marks. This one was fun, stacking 300-ton chunks of concrete five high 200-feet underwater.

 

[Piperflyer]

Is it posssible to heat the rod that has been stored in its container for long periods with a torch to get the moisture out before using it and how will it run?

anybody got any input to this question

 

[k0ua]

anybody got any input to this question

I have no experience doing this, but my thoughts are this: I think you would run a risk of destroying the flux, plus a propane torch makes lots and lots of moisture. Co2 and H2O are the byproducts of Propane combustion. So I think it might be counterproductive.. Likewise putting them in a propane fueled oven or barbeque grill.


James K0UA