Wet weather spring in driveway

[nrc17gto]

Took this picture today. Less than 24 hours since I dug it out.


Wet weather spring...wet. by nrc17gto, on Flickr

Seems like pretty good flow. I am going to try to fix this in the next few days while I am off.

 

[teg]

Finish digging your pond and move the road!!! Or put a bridge across the pond... :thumbsup: :laughing:

 

[nrc17gto]

Finish digging your pond and move the road!!! Or put a bridge across the pond... :thumbsup: :laughing:

Man I wish. I do want a pond eventually, too bad this area is only 50' wide!

So maybe I missed this part, the perforated pipe, does it need to be rigid or can it be the flexible stuff?

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Thanks.

 

[DJ54]

Looks like some shaley limestone in the bucket. Did you go any deeper, to see if it gets pretty solid..?? More then likely that layer is fractured, and water is perking up through it, off the harder layer below.

I am assuming you are just digging out that mucky spot, and going to replace it with more decent material.

Take it for what it's worth... But if it were me, I'd go up the hill, just about where I thought I saw a pile of spoil on the left side of the picture,and cut the drain across there, and catch the water before it gets to that point in the last picture.

Seeing the terrain in another picture, now..., I'd be tempted to make a complete loop around that spot, and make sure I caught it all. But that's just me talking... Guess I'm thinking, unless you go a good ways to the left looking up the hill, the water may still come in from the side, and still have the same problem.

Again, I'm assuming it is pretty soft either side of your road, and the water is perking out, off that harder seam of rock, across the face of the hill.

Bet that's some pretty nice water though, coming off that limestone aquifer..!!

 

[DJ54]

***So maybe I missed this part, the perforated pipe, does it need to be rigid or can it be the flexible stuff?***

They make a smooth bore 4" that comes in 20' joints, and has it's own connector ends molded in. I'd see if I could find some of that. I'm thinking Hancor makes it, and I'm sure others do to. A little more expensive, but worth it. It is fairly flexible. If your trench ends up being 4 to 5' deep, you can connect it together, and we used drywall screws to hold it together, because it has a tendency to unsnap itself if bowed too much, or pop apart when dropped in the hole..

Also the rolled type perforated pipe only has a crush strength of about 4' if I remember correctly.

With the ridgid pipe, you'll have extra money in connectors, glue etc.

I really think you will like the 4" smooth bore, once you've used it.

 

[JamesHW]

Good start on the pond project :thumbsup:

 

[MacLawn]

I don't know much, but it almost looks like you need a bridge!

 

[sam5570]

nrc i wish you all the luck in the world dealing with this problem we have put drains and tryed several drainage methods so far nothing works if we have a real wet spring we cannot get anything in half of our hay field we have about 10 of those springs that show up when we get alot of rain all the digging we have done over the years we could never for sure get to the actual point where the water was comming up.good luck

 

[JamesHW]

Thinking maybe it would have made more sense to dig a big hole on the downward slope side of the driveway, thereby giving the water someplace to go?

 

[2manyrocks]

4" rigid wall pipe works better than the black flex pipe because the rigid pipe can be sloped more accurately and there are no ridges in the pipe to mess with water flow. You can buy a 10' section at Lowes for about $10-11. It's the thin wall pipe.

Since you have a backhoe, it doesn't cost you much to try to drain it with drain pipe or a culvert, but I'm wondering if you won't end up having to redo it?

Instead, I'm wondering if this needs to be approached more like a bridge. In a sense, your road is crossing over a real spring. Whatever you try to fill this with, it is still going to be mushy at the bottom.