What Brand/Type chain should I buy?

   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy?
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#31  
^^^ what are you using to sharpen?


As to the wire and nails... I've been helping my brother clear around an old pioneer homestead he bought.... most of the trees are oak and at one time I think all they used were trees for fence posts...

One yesterday had an old square nail completely encased by several inches of tree growth... just my luck to find it!
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy?
  • Thread Starter
#32  
^^^ what are you using to sharpen?


As to the wire and nails... I've been helping my brother clear around an old pioneer homestead he bought.... most of the trees are oak and at one time I think all they used were trees for fence posts...

One yesterday had an old square nail completely encased by several inches of tree growth... just my luck to find it!
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #33  
John, would you mind sharing some info on your chain sharpening setup? Make and model number, maybe some tips on how you're using it? I've tried the Harbor Freight tool and would rather replace a chain than use that again. Thanks!
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #34  
Was out cutting last week and started with a new loop of Stihl Chain and for once I did not hit a piece of embedded wire or nail.

The two other guys asked what chain I was using because it just kept cutting.
Yup, they cut a lot better if you only cut wood. Not rock, sand metal.

We have 5 Stihl saws and a wood processor. I use all Stihl Bars and Stihl chains. Ive tried them all for the most part and found Stihl to hold an edge better. On our processor we've been sawing dirty logs and average 40 cord on a grinding of the chain. I don't use a hand file because it takes to long. i have 3 -42", and 2-24" chains to do every day. When i get a new chain, (and i use all full chisel chains) I always grind it before it goes on the saw. I also cut the rakers to .035 from the start and touch them every other grinding. My chains cut better than the ones on TV. For those who say grinding eats a chain to fast, well, our processor chain has cut about 2000 cord of 18" right now and is at the 40 percent mark, i don't think thats to bad a wear considering the junk its been cutting.
In closing, weather your hand filing or grinding chains, there is a special "nitch", it all comes with practice.
Happy Cutting, John
2,000 cord of 18" on 1 chain is doing DARN WELL. I imagine you are in the top 1% of users on TBN. I doubt I'll cut 2,000 cord in my life.

John, would you mind sharing some info on your chain sharpening setup? Make and model number, maybe some tips on how you're using it? I've tried the Harbor Freight tool and would rather replace a chain than use that again. Thanks!
I'm not John BUT

Harbor Freight's grinder is rarely worth the cost to of the two trips, 1 to drive to the store to buy it, the other to return it.

I've got a Northern Tools grinder from 2009. Think I paid $80 for it (before the 25% off). At the time (2009) it was a leading "candidate" which often required a little work to translate from Chinese to American. This was a known problem and usually easily fixed. I had to shim mine and apply a piece of duct tape. The final result rivals the quality of the flagship Oregon 511A, which was going for over $400.

However NOW the low price on the NT grinder is $120 and Oregon produces a min Grinder which will sharpen most homeowner chains for about $200. If your not sharpening ripping chain the Oregon wins hands down.

When I'm "cuttin wood" it's usually for either my sawmill or a chainsaw mill. A chainsaw mill REQUIRES a sharp chain. For my use I arbitrarily picked a cycle of sharpening.

Starting with a new chain -
Cut about 10' or 20' of tree (that's lengthwise)
Touch the chain up by hand
Repeat for the third touchup
Then use a Granberg File n' joint Granberg File-N-Joint Precision Filing Guide | Parts | Granberg | www.baileysonline.com
to ensure my angles were pretty correct.
Repeat three times (9 touchups, 3 file n' joint) then take them to the grinder to make sure everything is accurate.

The one time I took a chain in for sharpening I would have been better off buying a new chain.

Learn how to minimally hand file if you are going to run a chainsaw. Learn how to change a tire if you drive a vehicle.
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #35  
I use Stihl . Have never changed in over 30 years . I do have the H.F. sharpener and like a lot of things , if you take time to understand its use , it actually works good for me . I cut hardwood , be it oak or madrone , ( a northwest hardwood ) . I use to have 2 041's and ran full chisel on them . Once I sold them and bought my 441 magnum , I used original chain on it but have since switched over to a skip tooth chain . Higher kick back risk , thus not for faint hearted nor inexperienced . Usually they are not used on hardwood , rather it is a softwood chain , mainly for bucking purposes , but I enjoy running them .

Fred H.
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #36  
On sharpening, How far down can I go to still have a usable chain? I run 3 = Stihls with 20" bars and some of my chains only have about 5/32 of tooth left. Where do you draw the line on useable and worn out?
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #37  
On sharpening, How far down can I go to still have a usable chain? I run 3 = Stihls with 20" bars and some of my chains only have about 5/32 of tooth left. Where do you draw the line on useable and worn out?

Stihl chains have a line engraved on the cutting tooth that serves as a "guide" for sharpening angle as well as remaining tooth life. If you can't see the line, the chain is done.
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #38  
I use to live next to a logger and he showed me how to use a file to sharpen the teeth he also told me what saw to buy a HUSKY!, I just need a bigger saw so the 455 is next on my list.
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #39  
I use to live next to a logger and he showed me how to use a file to sharpen the teeth he also told me what saw to buy a HUSKY!, I just need a bigger saw so the 455 is next on my list.

Smart logger friend! Learning to sharpen a chain with a file should be part of owning & using a chainsaw. Husky is the one! But I'd be looking at the 545 and 555 models, these are more pro quality with metal cases.
 
   / What Brand/Type chain should I buy? #40  
Husky is a good brand. But dont be fooled. They make lesser models to meet lower price points and they just arent the same. Stihl does the same thing
 

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