3 Horse Ranch
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- Aug 18, 2017
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- Location
- Tonasket, WA
- Tractor
- NH B50H Cab, Ford 1715, Poulan Pro 46
Looking at a New Holland Boomer 50 cab and the price will be in line with the horse power, if it ever gets here.
I was looking at 4 tractors, the John Deere 3025D, the 3035D and the Kubota L2501 Gear Drive and the L3301 Gear Drive. The 2021 3025D was $18499 but rose up to $22,499 on the 2022, while the 2021 3035D was listed at $22,602 but is going for 26,499 on the 2022. I looked at the Kubota L2501DT and the L3301DT but they were even more, but I found a deal when someone had to sell their L3301, and got it for 19K. It seems prices are going up even faster than the cars, as even 2019-2020 used cars are selling above what the new 2021 models were a year ago.
Sure can, relatively. Cars cost no more today than they did then when inflation on everything is taken into account. Long-term prices go up. Short term they bounce around. It is this short term bouncing i am talking about.Yeah, that's why will can still buy cars at 1960 prices.
This is not a Covid supply thing. Basic economics. Money supply too big, lots of inflation. Rapid up ticks in government spending, lots of inflation. The supply chain issues are compounding it, but take those away and we would still be looking at high inflation. Politicians are using the supply chain issue as a way to mask the underlying economic problems. Economically, short term is usually less than 3 years. This will take longer to resolve.Sure can, relatively. Cars cost no more today than they did then when inflation on everything is taken into account. Long-term prices go up. Short term they bounce around. It is this short term bouncing i am talking about.
the big spike from this covid/supply thing will bounce dow………
This is correct at its most basic level. The problem is how they are building cars/trucks today. All I need is a truck with a Chassis, Gear Box, Engine, and Body. Give me manual seats, windows/locks and an OK radio and that's all need. This business of tailgates that open in 5 different directions, back-up cameras, state of the art computers, 20" wheels and tires, and the list goes on. My Very Basic 2019 F-150 XLT 4x4 had a Sticker Price of $42K, I bought it new in April of 2020 for $28,500. Ford did NOT lose money on it, for sure. It just shows you the mark-up on the trucks these days. My 1994 F-150 XL had a Sticker of $15K, I got it for $12K. Considering inflation $12K = $24K today. The cars/trucks are just like everything else today. . . Bigger - Better - Fancier - More Expensive.Sure can, relatively. Cars cost no more today than they did then when inflation on everything is taken into account. Long-term prices go up. Short term they bounce around. It is this short term bouncing i am talking about.
the big spike from this covid/supply thing will bounce dow………
This is not a Covid supply thing. Basic economics. Money supply too big, lots of inflation. Rapid up ticks in government spending, lots of inflation. The supply chain issues are compounding it, but take those away and we would still be looking at high inflation. Politicians are using the supply chain issue as a way to mask the underlying economic problems. Economically, short term is usually less than 3 years. This will take longer to resolve.
Nice change. We were talking about inflation.so it is not a supply thing huh? u are saying all the bare lots (tractors, cars, etc) are because there is too much money and people are simply buying Many more cars and tractors than before, thus emptying all the lots? I don’t think so. Lots are empty because of supply issues, not because of much higher demand.
Actually it's a combination of factors. Watched an Tractor Mike video from about a year ago and he said he had expected a glut of tractors on the lots when the Covid shutdowns came, but as he said, he couldn't have been more wrong. The tractors flew off the lots faster than the dealers could get new stock. As the supply chain woes increase dealers can't get enough tractors to satisfy demand Start adding in 7% inflation and the prices will eventually reach a point where demand will drop and the prices will stabilize. The only prices that are likely to drop are those artificially pumped up by less than honest dealers looking to make some extra cash.so it is not a supply thing huh? u are saying all the bare lots (tractors, cars, etc) are because there is too much money and people are simply buying Many more cars and tractors than before, thus emptying all the lots? I don’t think so. Lots are empty because of supply issues, not because of much higher demand.