What do you recommend?

   / What do you recommend? #1  

Kamik

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Location
Maine
Tractor
John Deere 2520
I've been comparing the 2305-2320-2520 since last fall and am trying to figure out which would best suite my needs. May I leverage your experience and guidance regarding the equipment, tractor and attachments, that I should buy?

Here are my requirements:

1. Small is good - I live in an urban area with less than an acre, and much of that space is constrained with buildings, driveways, sidewalks, fences, etc. So I need something small and manuverable with good visibility all round.

2. Primary purpose is to augment my physical strength landscaping and hardscaping. Digging holes for planting trees and shrubs, trenches for installing electrical wiring. Moving earth to level areas or make berms, or sloping to prepare for retaining walls. Moving mulch, shrubs, small trees. Digging planting holes. Digging post holes for fencing. Moving 5x5 fence posts and fencing rolls.

3. Digging out and moving rocks. A friend with 400 acres will let me harvest rocks from old rock walls for re-use on my property. The walls are very old, broken, buried and overgrown. His property is mostly trees with some open heath and marsh, and is wet until end of July. Soils are primarily clay. We've cut trails throughout the property over the years that are wide enough to drive on, but as is usual in New England, they do have axle-breaking rocks here and therewith a new crop coming up every spring. Very important - the lichens covering the rocks must be minimally damaged. Rollover protection is VERY important. Most of the rocks I expect can be lifted by hand, others with tractor assistance, probably 500-600 lbs max.

4. Plowing, brushing or snowblowing snow (for me and the neighbors of course). We received about 100 inches this year along with sleet, hail and rain, and, usually, the plows leave a 3-4 foot high frozen ice bank blocking the driveway.

5. Possibly mixing concrete in small batches (a 1/2 yard or less at any one time) for manufacturing custom patio blocks.

6. Attachment easy on/off. I envision a mix of 3-point hitch, drawbar (cat.2 ball hitch), possibly a backhoe, and would expect swapping one attachment for another more often than I'd like.

7. Occasional farm mowing, about 5 acres of orchard, open field and woods trails. The grass grows to about 18 inches before it's cut. Hidden rocks, roots, etc. The heath is wet year-round - the soil/vegetation supports one pass, but if you go back again too soon the tractor will get stuck. I'm guessing about the tractor getting stuck based on experience with the gator.

8. Minimal impact on the farm land, as in leave no trace. Once the rocks are harvested I'll re-build the old walls and leave them as orderly as possible. And ideally the traffic back and forth from the work site to the truck might wear down the grass (which will re-grow) but not leave ruts like a skidder might.

9. A trailer to haul it between my place in the city and the farm 20 miles away. Some attachments I'll store in the barn at the farm, others at my house. The trailer will definitely stay at the farm when not in use.

Maybe I need 2 tractors, home and farm, but can only afford one. Which should it be? Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Kamik
 
   / What do you recommend? #2  
I would go with the 2320 or 2520, you need some power in a few of the cases so more power for you.
 
   / What do you recommend? #3  
You described your uses, and terrain very well, thanks. I am very familiar with the conditions that you describe, and am with Nuru on this one! I would suggest a 2320 with turfs. I had a Kubota BX22 and sold it because it limited my use in terrain like you describe at the farm. You will find the 2320 surprisingly nimble, and the Kubota B2320 too for that matter. The 2520 does have some extra power for the landscaping chores, but is also a little heavier. You will want to keep the weight as close to the gator as possible, with some wide tires. I think you will need floatation more than traction at the farm, and the traction with the set up I described will be adequate for your chores in the city. Good luck with your choice, and shopping!
 
   / What do you recommend? #4  
ChuckinNH said:
You described your uses, and terrain very well, thanks. I am very familiar with the conditions that you describe, and am with Nuru on this one! I would suggest a 2320 with turfs. I had a Kubota BX22 and sold it because it limited my use in terrain like you describe at the farm. You will find the 2320 surprisingly nimble, and the Kubota B2320 too for that matter. The 2520 does have some extra power for the landscaping chores, but is also a little heavier. You will want to keep the weight as close to the gator as possible, with some wide tires. I think you will need floatation more than traction at the farm, and the traction with the set up I described will be adequate for your chores in the city. Good luck with your choice, and shopping!

take a look at Superturfs/Special Turfs like I have, they make it no problem to run over your grass without digging ruts.
 
   / What do you recommend?
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#5  
I went over to a local JD dealer today and sat on all three models of tractor. The 2305 was the most comfortable, followed by the 2520, and had the best forward visibility. Surprisingly, the 2320 was least comfortable - although the platform overall is flat there is a raised middle section so wide that my legs are awkwardly spread apart, placing my feet at an uncomfortable angle of engagement to the hydro pedals and brakes. And instead of getting narrower toward the seat it actually gets wider, leaving very little room for my foot to move around. Do folks with 2320s get charlie-horses in their legs after driving the tractor for a while?

The 2305 was rigged up with a loader and backhoe, causing me to immediately swoon at the sight. So I climbed on and tried to visualize myself at work with it in the woods. Trouble is, I couldn't get the seat to swing around so I could play with the backhoe controls. I just wasn't stong enough and could feel the strain in my back - ugh! I imagine that after a short time digging then moving the tractor forward a bit to re-commence digging that the seat would become a real PITA.

I also laid down on my back and creeped underneath for a good look at undercarriage of each model. Last Saturday there was still 2 feet of snow on the ground and today the ground was dry enough to lay on! The 2305 transmission is very low to the ground and has a filter on the front side just waiting to get snagged. The 2320 is much higher off the ground, with the hydro lines and filter on the sides and tucked up underneath, and the 2520 is completely clear of anything that would get snagged or break off - very nice.

From the rear you can see that the 2320 is definately a hybrid of the 2305 and 2520 and actually looks more fragile than either due to its VERY long axles, almost twice the length of those of the other two. They look too skinny and I wonder how much abuse it would really take from a hard driven backhoe or heavy implement. However, that's not my intent.

Very interesting is the optical illusion of size. All three have essentially the same footprint but the 2520 seems to dwarf the 2305, and to a lesser extent the 2320. I measured carefully with my tape and concluded that the 2520 'seems' bigger due to the tires and extra height off the ground.

So, the 2305 is out due to the low clearance and positioning of the transmission and filter. The 2320 just doesn't feel right due to the platform, although on paper it's specs make it look ideal. It certainly is taller and stronger than the 2305, and beefier where it counts.

The 2520 may be the answer, but gosh it looks big, too big for my city plot once the major project work is done and I'm left doing routine chores that a 2305 could handle. I wonder, can the 2320 tires be mounted on the 2520 without any adverse repercussions?

Kamik
 
   / What do you recommend? #6  
Have you spent any time on the JD website using the JD configurator? You might find the tire option that you're considering listed/offered as part of a new tractor build.

If not, that's a good point of discussion to have with your local JD dealer.

Best of luck in your decision.

AKfish
 
   / What do you recommend? #7  
I read all the things you want to do. What stood out to me was mowing 5 acres. Don't know how often you would do that, but I would not want to do it with anything smaller than a 5' cutter. JC
 
   / What do you recommend? #8  
Sounds like he's goin' for the 2520. Makes more sense as it appears that a backhoe is likely gonna be on his wish-list, shortly, too!?!?!

He'll be able to run a 5' mower with the 2520 as well.

AKfish
 
   / What do you recommend? #9  
Kamik, glad to see someone finally doing research before buying the wrong tractor, you're on the right path and I can't wait to see the outcome. FWIW, if you're seriously considering the 2520, take a minute to think about a 3120 without the belly mower, and get a seperate lawnmower for the cash the belly mower costs. that may make more sense for your purposes. you could keep the lawnmower at home and the tractor at the farm.
 
   / What do you recommend? #10  
JiminGa said:
Kamik, glad to see someone finally doing research before buying the wrong tractor, you're on the right path and I can't wait to see the outcome. FWIW, if you're seriously considering the 2520, take a minute to think about a 3120 without the belly mower, and get a seperate lawnmower for the cash the belly mower costs. that may make more sense for your purposes. you could keep the lawnmower at home and the tractor at the farm.

I would say 2520 too. JiminGa has a good option too, but I would go for the 2520. There probably will be always something that you can do with that unit.
 

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