I 've read this whole post, what great fun. I was going to purchase a Kioti but my local dealer in Northern Cal won't budge. I found other dealers out of state that would sell me the tractor and deliver to my house for as much as $3,000 in savings. Great deal and hard to pass up, but what to do when it breaks and I go to that dealer that wouldn't budge. I can imagine what kind of day he will tell me to have. So I will probably buy the other orange tractor, soley because of the dealer and budget, but I probably won't get all the tractor I realy want.