What gets more hp to the ground, Hydrostatic or shuttle?

   / What gets more hp to the ground, Hydrostatic or shuttle? #21  
Toyota. Stickshift. Single malts. Designated hitter. Coke.
 
   / What gets more hp to the ground, Hydrostatic or shuttle? #22  
you can get a 60+ hp tractor with hydro trans?
 
   / What gets more hp to the ground, Hydrostatic or shuttle? #24  
True enough but perhaps more importantly one of them will do a given amount of work , say plow an acre, with less fuel then the other. Not having read all the previous threads I'm guessing that advantage goes to the gear type transmission. The question is does the improved control the operator has with the hydrostatic transmission justify whatever extra fuel is consumed? For a machine working in tight places and on uneven ground that is probably a yes but for large Ag tractors pulling as wide as can be had to the horizon and back probably not.
Spot on.

My heaviest use is snow plowing a 2 mile length of road where at times snow gets very heavy. I plan on doing it with a blade on the loader boom as opposed to blower for time reasons. I currently do it with a pickup and it is really tough on the truck. I need to be able to maintain some speed to throw the snow over the bank which means I will be asking alot of the trans. I don't want to over heat and damage it. My tractor considerations are either Kubota L5740 or M7040. I want to use a 9' or so blade and am concerned about having enough hp and proper transmission to keep it moving.
If money were no object and I had a lot of snow to move, I would get one of those tractors with a cab, loader and HST, the setup a loader mounted snowblower (with a 3 point powerpack) and a loader mounted plow.
grsthegreat has that setup and it looks nice. Some of his threads about it:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/205921-making-brackets-installing-quick-attach.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/snow-removal/231936-blowing-very-wet-snow-loader.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/snow-removal/232101-want-thank-tbn-users-helped.html

Run the plow for light snow, then the blower for big snowfalls/pushing back banks.


Aaron Z
 
   / What gets more hp to the ground, Hydrostatic or shuttle? #25  
I plow a total of about two miles with a FEL mounted 8ft.Curtis snowplow.L4240HSTC Kubota with no problem at all. We average about 130in. a year.I have loaded R1's and have a seven ft.rear blade mounted also.I plow in medium range and toggle up and down as needed(HST +).
 
   / What gets more hp to the ground, Hydrostatic or shuttle? #26  
what will be the use of a 60HP tractor? if it is nothing but field work. geared tranmission would most likely make more sense. place it in gear set cruise and go. exception of corners. or ya trying to get out into field when it is to wet to begin width and having tires slip left and right.

if you are doing say digging with FEL or landscaping, then there will be a lot of forward to reverse and changing gears. and manual geared transmission would kill ya and most likely make things slower. and the few odd jobs to plow or disc, for actual pulling stuff i doubt would really matter.

i am a tad un-easy with hydrostatic tranmissions (HST pedal) or (shuttle shift lever) and trying to run in to high of a gear and causing tranny to heat up. been there done that.

power beyond, or rather 4 forward for 4 reverse or 8 forward 4 reverse or 8 forward and 8 reverse gears. personally would prefer more options for gearing. so i can get extra slow crawl gears, and then higher end gears with medium gears in between. so i can adjust speed and in that micro manage things to a certain point.
 
   / What gets more hp to the ground, Hydrostatic or shuttle? #27  
I'm with Nick, not sure you can get HST in that chassis size, excluding HP in the mid to high 50s which is available in a lighter chassis.

With that said,,,, there is a reason you can't get HST in the bigger chassis, it becomes inefficient as all get out. IH tried it 25-30 years ago with their 100HP hydro tractor. A few were sold but it never caught on. Wayyyyyyy to inefficient financially to operate.

My only comparison is my L4400DT against my brother's L3240HST. If I'm doing "piddly" work I like his tractor. If I'm doing "tractor" work I'll take mine hands down. He even gets on mine when the task at hand is challenging and always comments on how much more effective power the gear drive puts to the ground.
 

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