What is going to be the next "Big Thing"

   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #51  
The diesel-electric system is what trains use. (one of the reasons a locomotive can go forward or backward with equal speed and power)

Soooo, there is no question that it can be powerful enough and practical.
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #52  
I want one of those hydraulic things Ripley used to fight the Alien in the cargo bay. It would have to be air conditioned tho...
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #53  
The diesel-electric system is what trains use. (one of the reasons a locomotive can go forward or backward with equal speed and power)

Soooo, there is no question that it can be powerful enough and practical.

Oh yeah, let's ADD complexity!
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #54  
No way, man. That's the big misconception with diesel electric. It's in fact much simpler! All you have is a diesel generator with wires running to individual electric motors where needed. It's modular, small, light, and simple. You eliminate gear boxes, transfer cases, hydraulic piping and tanks, oil coolers etc.. It's a proven technology that is only now making a big comeback due to technological advances in the last decade that have made the whole thing cheaper, better, and smaller. Emissions requirements are driving it as well. Have you run a newer machine lately? I know everyone is afraid of electronics, but they're here, and they've been here for a while now. They're reliable too, which is why the big manufacturers are using them. Do you really think John Deere, Cat, Case/IH and others would fill their cabs with electronic controls if they didn't work really well? Try running a new machine with the electronic over hydraulic pilot controls and you'll wonder why it took so long! Awesome stuff.

Point being, it's so unobtrusive these days, you won't even know it's there. Tractor will function the same or better, but the principle behind it's operation will be completely different.

Do a search for Caterpillar's new diesel electric dozer, the D7E. It's actually shipping now. Operators are raving about it. Don't be confused - it's not a hybrid. Again, it's a diesel generator which supplies power to individual components where needed. It's the future and it's here.
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #55  
Oh yeah, let's ADD complexity!

Yeah, a Generator and 4 wheel motors is way more complex than a 12 speed powershift transmission coupled to a rear differential (and front differential for 4x4) with hydraulic brakes.

NOT.
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #56  
No way, man. That's the big misconception with diesel electric. It's in fact much simpler! All you have is a diesel generator with wires running to individual electric motors where needed. It's modular, small, light, and simple. You eliminate gear boxes, transfer cases, hydraulic piping and tanks, oil coolers etc.. It's a proven technology that is only now making a big comeback due to technological advances in the last decade that have made the whole thing cheaper, better, and smaller. Emissions requirements are driving it as well. Have you run a newer machine lately? I know everyone is afraid of electronics, but they're here, and they've been here for a while now. They're reliable too, which is why the big manufacturers are using them. Do you really think John Deere, Cat, Case/IH and others would fill their cabs with electronic controls if they didn't work really well? Try running a new machine with the electronic over hydraulic pilot controls and you'll wonder why it took so long! Awesome stuff.

Point being, it's so unobtrusive these days, you won't even know it's there. Tractor will function the same or better, but the principle behind it's operation will be completely different.

Do a search for Caterpillar's new diesel electric dozer, the D7E. It's actually shipping now. Operators are raving about it. Don't be confused - it's not a hybrid. Again, it's a diesel generator which supplies power to individual components where needed. It's the future and it's here.

Not to mention... the power of an electric motor is incredible. Basically FULL power from dead start to infinity RPM (or until the motor comes apart, which DOES come first!).
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #57  
Yes, the efficiency of electric motors has come to an incredible level. If you look at the electric motors in retrofitted cruise ships it looks silly. When the ship was built, it originally had a HUGE electric motor. After retrofit, the new motor with the same power that was put in place of the original is so small, it looks like it could never turn the prop.
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #58  
You got it fellas. And with diesel electric you can get rid of those power hogging torque converters too! Instant power, amazing torque, and infinite power/speed adjustment. Direction changes are extremely quick also. Engine runs at a near constant speed, which is generally slower than what is now at rated pto speed. Huge fuel savings. Quiet, too.

If you couldn't tell by now, I'm a huge proponent!
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #59  
I'll go with the IVT transmission on everything and maybe cabs for the next big thing.
For the next big surprise I'll go with the legions of aging farmers with kids that want no part of the business and the potential for a glut of land and other assets that all come up for sale at the same time.
Especially so if no estate tax extension or the step-up for date of death asset values (inheritance) is changed.
 
   / What is going to be the next "Big Thing" #60  
Ford tractor said:
Yeah, a Generator and 4 wheel motors is way more complex than a 12 speed powershift transmission coupled to a rear differential (and front differential for 4x4) with hydraulic brakes.

NOT.

You must be kidding.
 
 

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