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   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #31  
What model Bush hog did you have? In your opinion what mower is "worth a flip"?

None of them is worth a flip based on my experience with "top of the line" units like I thought I was buying (BH and JD).

I think the 7" BH is a 285? It's pretty stout. I forgot to mention that I had to re-drill and re-mount the two lower hitch pins much farther down on the front of the mower so it would lift up properly.
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #32  
Time to get a little more specific....

I mow for a living. More specifically, we mow highway right-of-ways, and large acreage tracts (for several real estate brokers/absentee land owners/law firms/legal conservators) We've piled on hour after hour of continuous duty mowing in some of the harshest conditions you're apt to find. I get to see what years of average use can do to a mower in a lot less than a years time.

I DO NOT like Woods mowers....In recent years, I had an MD172, 2 BB8400's, a BB720, and a BB7200. 3 gear box failures, multiple events where 3-point hitch structure failed (welds snapped, and metal fatigue) , paint that peeled off in sheets (no primer/poorly prepped surface under top coat), not to mention less than satisfactory mowing results. They just didn't hold up well under hard use. And don't even get me started on their bat wing mowers....I don't have anything good to say about them. YMMV Mine didn't......

"Entry level"/economy grade mowers aren't so "economic" when you start piling up the hours. The more you use a mower, the greater the likelyhood it's going to see the occasional "abuse". (ie, hitting a rock or 2, hanging the edge of a skid into a tree, bouncing the tail wheel into a hole in the ground, ect...) The light duty mowers, and cheaper "heavy duty" mowers just don't "cut it" when the going gets tough. Many brands have a light duty mower, and a SLIGHTLY heavier built model that is THEIR "heavy duty" mower.....Since there is no benchmark for what "heavy duty" really is, those two words get tossed in with quite a few mowers that aren't really so heavy duty when you line them up against a TRUE heavy duty mower. Point being, most of these so called "heavy duty"/low cost mowers will fold up like a cheap lawn chair when you start hammering on them. Some people make a case for buying a less expensive mower and planning on replacing it more often. I'd rather pay more initially, get more for my dollar, and be able to rely on what I buy for a long time. So....Scratch the economy brand mowers off my Christmas list....Not interested.

ALL the "big names" in the industry build economy grade mowers too. IMHO, that waters down the reputations they spent years building. Yes, it increases bottom line. That also lures in a number of buyers who only know "Brand X" has a sterling reputation for building high quality commercial grade mowers, only to get a throw-away model instead. Some less than scrupulous dealers will pitch "Brand X" light duty mowers as the "little brother" of BrandX heavy duty commercial mowers as "almost the same". Don't be naive....Light duty consumer grade mowers have no place in a heavy duty/extreme duty environment. Just because it has the same DECAL as a heavy duty mower, it does NOT have the "heft" of their big boys.....

If you're only going to mow a few acres of well maintained pastures, maybe 5 or 6 times a year, light duty/medium duty/economy grade mowers can get the job done and live to see another summer. But start mowing in hostile conditions, mow hundreds/thousands of acres over a projected lifetime, or (especially so) let a hired hand/semi-inexperienced operator get ahold of the mower and you better have a top quality, heavy duty/extreme duty piece. Otherwise, don't throw away the sales literature, because you'll be buying ANOTHER mower very soon after the one you're shopping for now....BTDT, quit trying to "save money" by buying anything less than the toughest mowers.

Look at what brand(s) you see behind commercial mowing rigs....Far more often than not, it'll be a product of the Alamo Group. (Alamo, Schulte, Rhino, and Bush Hog) When you NEED rugged dependability as well as a good return on investment, the list is short.....

I've got a Bush Hog 6' mower out behind the barn that dad bought in 1957. It's rusted, dented, bent, and worn......But I could go hook to it and cut weeds if I wanted to. Show me a 54 year old King Kutter still in useable condition......

I've got one particular Bush Hog (2715L) bat wing that has seen thousands of hours of highway ROW mowing without anything more than blade sharpening, the occasional greasing, and a wheel bearing that needed replacing after 4 years. 6 more bat wings of varying ages, ALL with excellent service records. Same story with 2 model 406 cutters (Extreme heavy duty commercial grade), and a 286 (medium duty 6'er)....The latter is kept here at the farm to mow along a creek bank. It never sees use when it doesn't get beat up on rocks, tree roots, drift wood, and Johnsongrass thats over the cab of the tractor....6+ years of torture, and it still cuts like the day I hauled it home.

No, I don't buy light duty Bush Hog mowers. But the medium duty/heavy duty/extreme heavy duty products they sell take a thrashing and keep on keepin' on. I'm not recommending them because they're "pretty", nor because the are less expensive....I recommend them because I KNOW they'll do the job, outlast most mowers by a sizable margin, and be out behind the barn, still usable, in another 50 years.....

FWJ.....Good post. I only have one question. What are you doing up at 2:40 AM? :confused2: Maybe your counting the money you saved with those recommended cutters? :confused::laughing::thumbsup:

(sometimes I don't sleep either....and a dose of TBN can solve that. :eek:)
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #33  
Time to get a little more specific....

I mow for a living. More specifically, we mow highway right-of-ways, and large acreage tracts (for several real estate brokers/absentee land owners/law firms/legal conservators) We've piled on hour after hour of continuous duty mowing in some of the harshest conditions you're apt to find. I get to see what years of average use can do to a mower in a lot less than a years time.

I DO NOT like Woods mowers....In recent years, I had an MD172, 2 BB8400's, a BB720, and a BB7200. 3 gear box failures, multiple events where 3-point hitch structure failed (welds snapped, and metal fatigue) , paint that peeled off in sheets (no primer/poorly prepped surface under top coat), not to mention less than satisfactory mowing results. They just didn't hold up well under hard use. And don't even get me started on their bat wing mowers....I don't have anything good to say about them. YMMV Mine didn't......

"Entry level"/economy grade mowers aren't so "economic" when you start piling up the hours. The more you use a mower, the greater the likelyhood it's going to see the occasional "abuse". (ie, hitting a rock or 2, hanging the edge of a skid into a tree, bouncing the tail wheel into a hole in the ground, ect...) The light duty mowers, and cheaper "heavy duty" mowers just don't "cut it" when the going gets tough. Many brands have a light duty mower, and a SLIGHTLY heavier built model that is THEIR "heavy duty" mower.....Since there is no benchmark for what "heavy duty" really is, those two words get tossed in with quite a few mowers that aren't really so heavy duty when you line them up against a TRUE heavy duty mower. Point being, most of these so called "heavy duty"/low cost mowers will fold up like a cheap lawn chair when you start hammering on them. Some people make a case for buying a less expensive mower and planning on replacing it more often. I'd rather pay more initially, get more for my dollar, and be able to rely on what I buy for a long time. So....Scratch the economy brand mowers off my Christmas list....Not interested.

ALL the "big names" in the industry build economy grade mowers too. IMHO, that waters down the reputations they spent years building. Yes, it increases bottom line. That also lures in a number of buyers who only know "Brand X" has a sterling reputation for building high quality commercial grade mowers, only to get a throw-away model instead. Some less than scrupulous dealers will pitch "Brand X" light duty mowers as the "little brother" of BrandX heavy duty commercial mowers as "almost the same". Don't be naive....Light duty consumer grade mowers have no place in a heavy duty/extreme duty environment. Just because it has the same DECAL as a heavy duty mower, it does NOT have the "heft" of their big boys.....

If you're only going to mow a few acres of well maintained pastures, maybe 5 or 6 times a year, light duty/medium duty/economy grade mowers can get the job done and live to see another summer. But start mowing in hostile conditions, mow hundreds/thousands of acres over a projected lifetime, or (especially so) let a hired hand/semi-inexperienced operator get ahold of the mower and you better have a top quality, heavy duty/extreme duty piece. Otherwise, don't throw away the sales literature, because you'll be buying ANOTHER mower very soon after the one you're shopping for now....BTDT, quit trying to "save money" by buying anything less than the toughest mowers.

Look at what brand(s) you see behind commercial mowing rigs....Far more often than not, it'll be a product of the Alamo Group. (Alamo, Schulte, Rhino, and Bush Hog) When you NEED rugged dependability as well as a good return on investment, the list is short.....

I've got a Bush Hog 6' mower out behind the barn that dad bought in 1957. It's rusted, dented, bent, and worn......But I could go hook to it and cut weeds if I wanted to. Show me a 54 year old King Kutter still in useable condition......

I've got one particular Bush Hog (2715L) bat wing that has seen thousands of hours of highway ROW mowing without anything more than blade sharpening, the occasional greasing, and a wheel bearing that needed replacing after 4 years. 6 more bat wings of varying ages, ALL with excellent service records. Same story with 2 model 406 cutters (Extreme heavy duty commercial grade), and a 286 (medium duty 6'er)....The latter is kept here at the farm to mow along a creek bank. It never sees use when it doesn't get beat up on rocks, tree roots, drift wood, and Johnsongrass thats over the cab of the tractor....6+ years of torture, and it still cuts like the day I hauled it home.

No, I don't buy light duty Bush Hog mowers. But the medium duty/heavy duty/extreme heavy duty products they sell take a thrashing and keep on keepin' on. I'm not recommending them because they're "pretty", nor because the are less expensive....I recommend them because I KNOW they'll do the job, outlast most mowers by a sizable margin, and be out behind the barn, still usable, in another 50 years.....

I agree with this for the most part... Not brand loyalty, but about a heavy duty piece of equipment as compared to light duty.. IF you've got the tractor top handle it!

Many of us are relegated to the "Standard Duty" ranks because we don't have the tractor to hang an 800 pound or better attachment off the back. I'd gladly give up size... run a 48" heavier duty unit than a "standard duty" 60", but that is not the way the market operates. As size increases, so does build quality and weight, because it's necessary to make the unit hold together.
Yeah, I could buy more tractor, but honestly, I can't justify it because I just don't need it. But, I'd dearly love to have a heavier duty bush hog than what I have. That said, I believe my Woods will hold up for the rest of my lifetime, but, I mow myself, and I KNOW where the hazards are! I'd be much less comfortable mowing a strange piece of land laced with boulders of unknown size and location.
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #34  
None of them is worth a flip based on my experience with "top of the line" units like I thought I was buying (BH and JD).

I think the 7" BH is a 285? It's pretty stout. I forgot to mention that I had to re-drill and re-mount the two lower hitch pins much farther down on the front of the mower so it would lift up properly.

285 is a 5' mower.....

Never had an ounce of trouble with my 286. It's been mounted on a total of 5 different tractors, of 4 different brands. With standard pin location, I can raise it far enough that the pto shaft would come in contact with the front edge of the mower deck. It couldn't be raised any farther....
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #35  
FWJ.....Good post. I only have one question. What are you doing up at 2:40 AM? :confused2: Maybe your counting the money you saved with those recommended cutters? :confused::laughing::thumbsup:

(sometimes I don't sleep either....and a dose of TBN can solve that. :eek:)


In a word or two....Sinus headache....
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #36  
I agree with this for the most part... Not brand loyalty, but about a heavy duty piece of equipment as compared to light duty.. IF you've got the tractor top handle it!

Many of us are relegated to the "Standard Duty" ranks because we don't have the tractor to hang an 800 pound or better attachment off the back. I'd gladly give up size... run a 48" heavier duty unit than a "standard duty" 60", but that is not the way the market operates. As size increases, so does build quality and weight, because it's necessary to make the unit hold together.
Yeah, I could buy more tractor, but honestly, I can't justify it because I just don't need it. But, I'd dearly love to have a heavier duty bush hog than what I have. That said, I believe my Woods will hold up for the rest of my lifetime, but, I mow myself, and I KNOW where the hazards are! I'd be much less comfortable mowing a strange piece of land laced with boulders of unknown size and location.

I should have made myself clearer....I was specifically addressing the original poster. He's looking at an application where heavy duty is a minimum requirement.
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #37  
Hi i have to agree with you Robert in NY. i have a woods md172 and like yours my seal went out also twice. I never contacted the dealer or the company, i just figured too much hard mowing ,or bad seal etc..... I like you still have the mower and use it , i also like you just fill the gear box with grease ,kind a pia but its still does the job , and i still like woods. I also own a Brush Bull 840 dam good mower ,it has taken a beating and still good shape . Ive cut several trees up to 4" no problems at all and i wouldnt think twice about buying another, in fact i still mite. I also like the john deere heavy duty 7' 3pth, they are very good also .
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #38  
The Bush Hog squealer line is just a cheap entry level mower to compete with the King Kutter and other cheap mowers. Jump to a medium Duty Bush Hog and you will see they are built much better same with Woods, the medium duty is built much heavier and better then the light duty mowers.

Not saying it's super heavy duty,but for what it is the SQ172 comes with a 65 hp rated gear-box and weighs about 30 lb's more than the "pro"series King Krutter.
With all due respect:
You sure you don't have them confused with the bushhog RazorBack series ?
BTW:For what some might refer to as a cheap entry level bushhog IMHO I think(believe)Hawkline /International(red) not IH make a good hog for the money.


Boone

I also have a BH Squealer SQ172 and love it. Never any problem with it. Bought it in 2006. A few quarter sized dents in the deck from large rocks etc but the cutter still looks like new-brush hog 9 acres with it every several weeks.
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #39  
I also have a BH Squealer SQ172 and love it. Never any problem with it. Bought it in 2006. A few quarter sized dents in the deck from large rocks etc but the cutter still looks like new-brush hog 9 acres with it every several weeks.

Your use is exactly what the Squealer line was designed for. Not mowing vineyards.
 
   / What is the best rotary cutter on the market today for the price #40  
Check out a medium or heavy duty Howse. I have a 6 foot HD, and it is just about indestructible. Weighs a ton, too - the whole thing's made of 1/4" plate.
 
 

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