What is this on the back fender?

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EddieWalker

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I'm not ready to buy my big cab tractor yet, but I do enjoy looking at them from time to time and day dreaming about the day I can make it happen. Some of them have these buttons on the back fender and some don't. I'm guessing that they have something to do with the lift arms, but that's just a guess. I've tried to figure out the name of this feature, but haven't had any luck.

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What is this called? I'd like to look it up on youtube if possible. I'd also like to know if it's something that I want or need.

Thanks
 
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One of those is obviously a PTO button which I don't think should ever be on a rear fender. What make model tractor is that?

Here is a video on John Deere's hitch assist.

 
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Yellow is PTO and the others raise and lower the lift arms
 
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The yellow button - start/stop the PTO. The other two - raise/lower the 3-point arms. Both would be handy if you have a cabbed unit. My M6040 is open station. I still would like the raise/lower function. It's very difficult to see the ball ends of the 3-point arms when using my normal hydraulic 3-point lever while stand along side the tractor. I can climb up on the seat - turn around and look over the back of the seat - use my left hand on the hydraulic lever. No matter how I do it - sort of a PITA.
 
   / What is this on the back fender? #5  
Two buttons are the lift arms one for up one for down,
the yellow button is for the PTO, on most of them a quick push jogs the pto, push and hold for 3-5 seconds and the pto will stay running, it starts when you push the button if you let off too soon it stops.
If you do much stationary pto work such as unloading self unloading wagons you would know why it is much appreciated.
Lou
 
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They raise and lower the 3pt hitch. JD and probably others have a system that also allows you to move the tractor forward and backwards.

Probably what the other switch locations are for?? :confused3:

My opinion is a good quick hitch system is all that is needed.

As far as the PTO button. As mentioned good for stationary equipment.
 
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I've seen the lift arm buttons before. They'd seem handy when hooking up equipment without a quick hitch.
I've never seen the (secondary) PTO button there before. It'd seem handy like Lou said, or for a logging winch. But I bet it means having a electric PTO that slams in the PTO. I wouldn't want that for a lot of application like turning on a chipper, mower, baler, anything with a high inertia.

Having the combination of the two right there could be handy, but it's also going to lead to somebody running a post hole digger from a bad spot when it needs "just a little bit of weight" pushed on it and they're by themselves. Oh well, you can't idiot proof the world.
 
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A proper designed PTO has softstart.
 
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My JD 5100M has the yellow PTO button on the rear fender. It is used to help you align the splines of the tractor PTO shaft with the implement shaft. It doesn’t enable you to run the PTO at 540 rpm, it only allows you to very slow jog it for alignment purposes.

The black buttons are for raising and lowering the 3pt links.
 
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I made a simple mechanical lever tied to the "factory" linkage to lift/lower the lift arms while standing at the rear of the tractor. It's a very nice feature to have while attaching heavy Cat 2 implements.
 
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Thank you. On my tractor, I can turn the PTO shaft by hand when connecting my bush hog or post hole digger. Do bigger tractors need something to turn the PTO shaft? I never thought about that before.

I'm not familiar with stationary implements. Do you run them by holding the PTO Button? How do you do anything else? This really confuses me.

The picture is from a Case tractor that I saw for sale on Craigslist, but I have also seen them for sale on other brands. The ones that don't seem to have the, or at least the M5 and M6 Kubota models that I've seen for sale don't seem to have them. I was looking on the Kubota website to see if it's an option, but couldn't figure out what the feature was called. I'm still unsure what to call it.
 
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One of those is obviously a PTO button which I don't think should ever be on a rear fender. What make model tractor is that?

Here is a video on John Deere's hitch assist.


Thank you for this. I've never seen this version of it, but will search "Hitch Assist" when looking for more information on it. I really like how easy it makes hooking up stuff!!!
 
   / What is this on the back fender? #13  
Thank you. On my tractor, I can turn the PTO shaft by hand when connecting my bush hog or post hole digger. Do bigger tractors need something to turn the PTO shaft? I never thought about that before.

I'm not familiar with stationary implements. Do you run them by holding the PTO Button? How do you do anything else? This really confuses me.

The picture is from a Case tractor that I saw for sale on Craigslist, but I have also seen them for sale on other brands. The ones that don't seem to have the, or at least the M5 and M6 Kubota models that I've seen for sale don't seem to have them. I was looking on the Kubota website to see if it's an option, but couldn't figure out what the feature was called. I'm still unsure what to call it.

I can't speak for the other brands, but on the IH and NH
the ptos have a brake that is applied when the pto is stopped.
If you just bump the button it will just bump the pto,
if you push and hold for a short time it will run with the button down,
if you hold it on for about 5 seconds it will stay on.
We use ours the most on self unloading forage wagons,
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We pull up,
connect the pto shaft,
if the wagon has it lower the chute extension,
verify the unloading controls and clutch,
start the pto,
engage the wagons clutch which will start the cross conveyor and depending on the wagon some of the beaters,
when the cross conveyor is cleaned out, which may involve bumping that clutch so as not to plug a blower,
with it running engage the apron chain drives and set the unload speed,
when everything is working right,
climb up in the cab and run the throttle up and down to unload as quickly as possible without breaking or plugging anything,
enjoy the AC for a bit, with no chaff dirt or dust,
when the wagon is almost empty climb back out and shift to the highest apron speed to clean out the wagon,
return the wagon controls to stop and neutral,
climb back in throttle down shut off the pto,
climb back out disconnect the pto,
climb back in,
return the empty wagon to the field,
pick up a loaded one and haul it to where you are unloading,
and repeat, several times a day.

That simple button saves one trip or more back around to the cab and climbing the steps into the tractor to start the pto,
at the end of the day it has saved a lot of steps, climbing, and time.
 

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