What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purchase

[Egbert]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

I'd say, it's difficult to buy too much tractor but very easy to buy too little.

 

[IslandTractor]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

I haven't priced these tractors recently. I'd pay a bit more for more HP but what you really need to decide is what frame size you can work with and afford. CK20 will do a lot of (most) of the tasks that the larger CKs will do but with one foot smaller implements. If space is limited the CK20 is a great tractor. The CK27/30/35 are bigger frames but basically the same loader capacity and relatively small differences in work output. I don't know what the current difference in price is between a CK35 and a DK40 but there is a big difference in overall work capacity between the two. I'd certainly pay an extra 2K if the difference is that small to move from a CK35 to a DK40 if my property could handle the larger frame size.

 

[Fuggley]

... to me the best strategy is to buy the lowest HP in a vendors tractor class.
With the CK27, you are getting the same hydraulic pump as the CK30 or CK35 and also everything else except the diesel engine is identical.
The CK27 will burn a lot less fuel than its larger engine CK brothers. However it will not move quite as quickly as them but not something you would never be able to notice unless
you are hopping on and off to compare
them all the time. Hydraulic power specs are all the same.
IMHO, if you are sure a CK model suits your individual tractoring requirements, I'd just try to get the best price on any CK model that you can and that will probably be a CK27. If you need a larger tractor don't buy a CK at all.

 

[IslandTractor]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

... to me the best strategy is to buy the lowest HP in a vendors tractor class.
With the CK27, you are getting the same hydraulic pump as the CK30 or CK35 and also everything else except the diesel engine is identical.
The CK27 will burn a lot less fuel than its larger engine CK brothers. However it will not move quite as quickly as them but not something you would never be able to notice unless
you are hopping on and off to compare
them all the time. Hydraulic power specs are all the same.
IMHO, if you are sure a CK model suits your individual tractoring requirements, I'd just try to get the best price on any CK model that you can and that will probably be a CK27. If you need a larger tractor don't buy a CK at all.

I don't disagree with your suggestion to buy the lowest HP in a particular class as those are often great bang for the buck, but I don't think it is correct to say that a lower HP tractor in the same frame will use less fuel than a similar but higher hp tractor. For any given engine output, fuel consumption in diesels is pretty similar. If I need 22hp to do a job that might mean 2400rpm on one tractor and 2000rpm on the other but the actual weight of fuel burned would be the same or very close.

 

[rmorey]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

... to me the best strategy is to buy the lowest HP in a vendors tractor class.
With the CK27, you are getting the same hydraulic pump as the CK30 or CK35 and also everything else except the diesel engine is identical.
The CK27 will burn a lot less fuel than its larger engine CK brothers. However it will not move quite as quickly as them but not something you would never be able to notice unless
you are hopping on and off to compare
them all the time. Hydraulic power specs are all the same.
IMHO, if you are sure a CK model suits your individual tractoring requirements, I'd just try to get the best price on any CK model that you can and that will probably be a CK27. If you need a larger tractor don't buy a CK at all.

Not to discredit your theory but, I had a CK25 HST and found it had a problem with the snowblower, so, I upgraded to the 35 and the problem went away.

The point being, if loader power is the desire, then your idea has merit. But if you're after pto power then the highest hp in the class would be the logical choice.

 

[freewookie]

I haven't priced these tractors recently. I'd pay a bit more for more HP but what you really need to decide is what frame size you can work with and afford. CK20 will do a lot of (most) of the tasks that the larger CKs will do but with one foot smaller implements. If space is limited the CK20 is a great tractor. The CK27/30/35 are bigger frames but basically the same loader capacity and relatively small differences in work output. I don't know what the current difference in price is between a CK35 and a DK40 but there is a big difference in overall work capacity between the two. I'd certainly pay an extra 2K if the difference is that small to move from a CK35 to a DK40 if my property could handle the larger frame size.

Dealer told me it's roughly $1k difference between a CK35 and DK40.

 

[murphy1244]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

Dealer told me it's roughly $1k difference between a CK35 and DK40.

Then I'm surprised they sell any CK-35s.

 

[IslandTractor]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

Dealer told me it's roughly $1k difference between a CK35 and DK40.

And that my friend is a no brainer decision. For me, even $2K would be hard to turn down for the upgrade. Only exception would be if you just cannot handle the size. The DK is more tractor in every conceivable way including heavier and taking up more space. All other attributes are positive. It is a newer design, considerably more capable, and, it is a much more comfortable tractor to operate.

 

[DK35vince]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

The CK27 will burn a lot less fuel than its larger engine CK brothers. However it will not move quite as quickly

My view is the CK 27 may use slightly less fuel per hour.
But if it takes longer to do the same job as the CK 35 you are gaining nothing in fuel savings.
The CK 35 can run a larger mower, larger tiller, larger snow blower, Etc. Etc.

 

[kiotiken]

Re: What jobs will a CK35HST do better than a CK27? I'm "this" close to making a purc

Not to discredit your theory but, I had a CK25 HST and found it had a problem with the snowblower, so, I upgraded to the 35 and the problem went away.

The point being, if loader power is the desire, then your idea has merit. But if you're after pto power then the highest hp in the class would be the logical choice.

Road travel is another one that needs the extra hp. These tractors are heavy for the hp they have and I found my CK30 struggled in high range with even a slight hill.

Dealer told me it's roughly $1k difference between a CK35 and DK40.

They're usually a couple $K from each other and it sounds like your dealer has a DK40 in stock to sell you and no CK35 and would have to order it. You'd never sell a CK35 if they were that close in price. I've had a CK and they're great, but there's a lot more in the DK other than what most people think of (FEL, hp, frame size). Draft control, independent automatic electronic PTO, standard remote, more gauges, more features etc, etc, etc. These alone are worth much more than the $1K difference your dealer is quoting.