What size tractor would pull this disc with ease?

[RollingsFarms]

Rolling farms: I have a taylor-way disc very similar in design to that disc, and I pull it with a A-C D 12 series III. It pulls very well in our sandy ground, but you know its there when you hit the clay!

I'm not familiar with that model. are you talking about an old Allis-Chalmers? what horsepower does it put out? I am not familiar with models of AC's but would like to hear more about yours. All i know is my 27 hp in 3rd gear(low range) just wont pull it as effective as I belive a 50-60hp(2WD but prefferably 4WD) would get the job done. (i'm CREEPING along now but any lower then that and snails would pass me.haha) I just get tired of going along, then hit a spot and bury the tractor...raise the disk up, back up and go again, do this for longer then an hour in hot enough weather and the tractor overheats(not sure if its the transmission or the motor overheating because the temp light is for both but I have a feeling its the transmission). I really need something that's going to work, and work HARD and work all day if I need it to, even if it is 100 degrees outside.

 

[heymack]

Rollingfarms, take a look at the New Holland TT60 or TT75. Either of these will pull that little disk around all day without problem and they're very affordable.

 

[wushaw]

Ah, but they ARE real. Solid stock no less. They're built for specific use jobs. Forestry people keep them around, usually with a crawler tractor that has a 3-point hitch, to cut firebreaks in a hurry. One pass, deep enough to bring up moisture.... I'm sure a few filter in to a life outside it's intended market. Seen a time or 2 I'd liked to have had that rascal!

There maybe some solid stock on this disk but not all...you can see caps welded on the gang arms so no solid there unless it's filled with lead, and there is a welded bead on the rear frame bar and seen side frame bar.
It could be 1/4" wall tubing and the gang attach points look to be substancial in weight also. I could see 900lbs maybe a little more but not much.

I know my little homebuilt 5 footer weighs 630lbs and does very well on my soil.

 

[RollingsFarms]

There maybe some solid stock on this disk but not all...you can see caps welded on the gang arms so no solid there unless it's filled with lead, and there is a welded bead on the rear frame bar and seen side frame bar.
It could be 1/4" wall tubing and the gang attach points look to be substancial in weight also. I could see 900lbs maybe a little more but not much.

I know my little homebuilt 5 footer weighs 630lbs and does very well on my soil.

i would agree about it weighing 900+/- i'd guess anoywhere between 850-950 tops. what do you tug your disk around with(what size tractor? make? 4wd or 2wd?)

 

[Farmwithjunk]

There maybe some solid stock on this disk but not all...you can see caps welded on the gang arms so no solid there unless it's filled with lead, and there is a welded bead on the rear frame bar and seen side frame bar.
It could be 1/4" wall tubing and the gang attach points look to be substancial in weight also. I could see 900lbs maybe a little more but not much.

I know my little homebuilt 5 footer weighs 630lbs and does very well on my soil.

Try closer to 2000lbs.....Spools (spacers between disc) are heavy. Disc blades themselves are much heavier than normally found on a 3-point disc. Even extra weight built into the hitch. I'm hunting for a link to a forestry equipment manufacturer that build 'em. Can't recall their name to save me right now. Here's a link to a company that makes products for simular applications. Note the weight of some of the super-heavy duty disc's. They pile on the weight in any fashion.

Fireline & Forestry Equipment - Erb & Roberts, Inc.

 

[N80]

I agree with your estimate. A basic KK 6 footer weighs in at 850. That thing is twice as 'dense' as a KK or other low end brand.

 

[Gizmo36]

Farmwithjunk is right they want miss 2000lbs by much.They are for deep Tillage .If he pulls on them allot with a 790 Deere he will be putting a motor in before long.

 

[wushaw]

i would agree about it weighing 900+/- i'd guess anoywhere between 850-950 tops. what do you tug your disk around with(what size tractor? make? 4wd or 2wd?)

I pull mine with a L2800HST 29hp fourwheel drive.


Farmwithjunk, I went to the link and see that the pictured disk is different than the one in question.
The only real way to find out the actual weight is if Rollingfarms weighs it.

Rollingfarms if you have a CAT scale locally and a trailer then you could weigh it that way....get a tare weight first of the trailer then put the disk on and get another weight. CAT scale cost is @7.00-8.00 each weight.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I pull mine with a L2800HST 29hp fourwheel drive.


Farmwithjunk, I went to the link and see that the pictured disk is different than the one in question.
The only real way to find out the actual weight is if Rollingfarms weighs it.

Rollingfarms if you have a CAT scale locally and a trailer then you could weigh it that way....get a tare weight first of the trailer then put the disk on and get another weight. CAT scale cost is @7.00-8.00 each weight.

I realize they're completely different designs, but the point is, for the application, they're built with extreme weight incorperated in their basic frames.

It may take 'till I get back to the office this coming tuesday to find the name, and then the link to the company I suspect made the disc in question. Can't recall their name.....Getting old.....

 

[Turkeyman]

I would look at a 55 -65pto hp 4wd tractor. Maybe one with a rabbit /turtle so when you hit clay you can push a button and power thru it. ALtman NH in Florence has a Kubota 8580 4wd w/cab and loader for $25 k. They show several other 4wds as well. Sparrow & Kennedy have several 55-75 hp 4WD as well. ( Fastline Mid Atlantic).
The problem w/ these is moving in the woods with one. Big farm tractor are often too big for woods work. I would avoid a cab but get a FOPS as dead pine limbs are always falling.
55 pto Hp would also easly pull a 12-14 cutter for those fields.