What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc

   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #31  
Your situation sounds very similar to ours and since the L3130 has been thrown into the mix, I have some thoughts you might consider about that tractor. We also live in Kentucky and recently bought 20 acres.

In October of 2004 we purchased a Kubota L3130 from a dealer 40 miles outside of Louisvlle. We paid $18,125 for the hydrostat, R1 tires loaded with antifreeze, 723 FEL w standard bucket and 3 hooks welded on and delivery 12 miles to our property.

When pricing these out, be sure to factor in some of the options that people often leave out of the discussion. For instance, the R4 tires were $600 more. Unless you are finish mowing, you might consider putting that towards the upgrade from gear to hydro on any tractor you consider. Endless configuration options need to be considered for the trade offs, like quick attach bucket, heavy duty bucket or grapples or tooth bars may add up to more than gear to hydro upgrade, etc.

If you plan to lift and move heavy trees you might want the 723 versus the 523 FEL, and you need the bigger loader if you want to add a backhoe later.

We needed a tractor for many of the same purposes you stated, plus we were doing a lot of backfilling and finish grading on the home we had built there last year.

I drove Deere, Kioti, CNH, Branson and Kubota, and looked over Mahindra, MF and Farmtrac. We eventually went with the Kubota L3130 over the Deere 4310 and Kioti CK30, though all three felt very capable and comparable.

I have been very happy with the L3130 and think the constant recommendations on this forum to pay more for the L3134 or L3138 are mostly unfounded. With the 723 loader completely heaped with wet clay or gravel and hauling it uphill the tractor has never really even hinted that it is underpowered. Don't expect the other two models would do that in high gear much better than the L3130. Used properly, you shouldn't have any complaints about its ability. Unless you have to have the pto hp, it is not worth the money to me.

I run a 5' bushog and the pto power for that task has never been overly burdened in tall wet grass. I have drug the 6' box blade heaped full without ever slowing down. The subsoiler did require added throttle a few times, and I suppose if I ever use all the rippers with the boxblade some day, that'll tax it too.

But the weight of the L3130 (especially with the tires loaded) really lets me put the hp to the ground reducing spin outs a lot (another advantage of the r1 tires, but if you do a lot of loader work, the R1 front tires really don't want to bear it well -- another trade off!).

Anyway, I didn't drive any new tractors that I didn't like, so all the little details added up to my decision and probably will for you too. Once you find one that will do what you need it to do, the big details are a price you can be happy with and a good dealer.

p.s. If you do much loader work, I think you might regret the strait gear versus the shuttle or hydro. I know I would.
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #32  
I am seconding Kybota's remarks, I have been using this 3130 that the dealer let me try out and it has done everything I asked of it. I have'nt tried it running the box blade or the rotary cutter so I am not sure about the pto hp, I did decide to go to the 3830 but it will probably be more than I need. But one can never have too much hp....
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc
  • Thread Starter
#33  
We bought a tractor today. We decided on the MF because of the great MF dealer here only 18 miles away and the lack of a good Kubota dealer in this area. They have to transfer the tractor from a dealer in Illinois and then install the loader so we should be able to get it around the middle of next week. We decided on a MF1533 with the 12x12 power shuttle trans, R4 industrial tires with fluid, MF 1525 FEL with the skid-steer quick attach, a 66" bucket, and a 6' box grading blade. In the near future we plan to get a pallet fork and an auger. John
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #34  
Hi IowaMan,
Welcome to TBN. Sounds like you got a good deal on that Case. Old Ag tractors are cool; many of them keep going like the energizer bunny.

On this forum, members with an Ag background are a minority. The contacts and knowledge needed to find and select a good used Ag tractor are missing. Also many lack the skills and facilities needed to maintain older machinery. Hence it's new tractors and dealer support.

This isn't all bad. The newer tractors have alot going for them. 4WD, power shuttle, HST transmissions, Quick Attach loader buckets and efficient, reliable engines make them a joy to own. Not all of this is necessary, as many here will argue, but it sure adds to the enjoyment and utility of tractor work.

Stick around, it's a good group and there's lots to learn. What you know about Ag tractors could be of value to someone who is considering one. The idea is to help others with the knowledge you bring to the forum and let the others help you with what they know.

If you check the profiles of other members, you'll find people from all areas and walks of life. It's amazing that such a diverse group has so much in common.

Just be forewarned. There's a bug on the loose in this group. If it bites you, you'll be looking at those expensive, duded-up tractors with different eyes.
Bob
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #35  
You know, when I was looking to buy a tractor, as a complete newbie, I did look at a wide range of small used Ag tractors. The first thing I noticed is that most anything that still had a little bit of paint, 30-40 hp, ran well and had an FEL of any sort, the prices were $10,000 and up. Now that is pretty intimidating for someone who isn't confident enough to assume that they can do their own repairs.

Then enter the brand new, shiny 4wd with manufacturer built and installed FEL, 45 hp, 3 year warranty, etc , etc and even at twice the price it starts to look good. Throw in 3 year 0% interest and for me, the deal was done.

And yes, that's a ton-o-money but man do you get a really capable tractor. And mine is very basic, gear drive, etc.
Fanciest things on it are the power steering, vinyl seat and yes, a cup holder! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #36  
I'll second that, N80. I'd rather spend $20,000 well than risk throwing away $5000.

Plus, I'm just tickled pink everytime the L4300 fires right up regardless of how cold it is. Not having to monkey with ether and battery chargers....priceless /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
Bob
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #37  
George:

I completely agree.

I started by budgeting $5k for a tractor for my 26 acre property. Figured that a tractor, having 4 wheels, an axle and an engine must depreciate like a car does - i.e. worth peanuts in 10 years.

Boy did I get a wake up call when I saw what $5k or $10k would get me! Not being particularly mechanically inclined didn't make it better.

I still kept looking for a good 'deal' used but try to stick to some thing under 8 years, under 1000 hours. I found that folks were getting back nearly what they paid for these machines on resale! and It would cost me less than $3k or 4K more to buy exactly what I needed brand new - and less once you threw in the 0% for 3 years.

So my $5k went to $27k!. I also know that by taking care of the machine, even after 10 years of use, I will get a GOOD chunk of my money back if I do trade. As long as it does what I need, it will probably last me for another 30 to 40 years.

New is a lot of money but unless you know the background of the used machine or are mechanically inclined yourself, new is still a GREAT deal in my opinion given how long these machines last.
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #38  
I've been away a few days and just read the posts. I think you made a good decision. You will enjoy the extra hp over the L3130 and it sounds like you have a good dealer. Good luck with your new purchase.
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc
  • Thread Starter
#39  
Tomorrow afternoon our new tractor will be delivered! I went by the dealer and looked at it today. They were just finishing up filling the tires and installing the loader, just a few more small details and it's ready to go.
They were asking if I wanted a couple of chain links welded to the back of the bucket to use to hang a chain on for lifting. It seems like a good idea, what do you think?
John
 
   / What to buy? Looked at MF1533, TC30, L3400, etc #40  
I would have them do it. It will be very useful.
 

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