What to use as a tow chain?

   / What to use as a tow chain? #21  
I pulled a lot of small brush, and bought some small yellow chain fromWM, about 1/2", because it was easy to wrap, and I could easily find it. Would old snow tire chain work for gripping brush? I live on the Gulf Coast, so there is none of that stuff around here! Do hook up to the drawbar, because it is below the axle, and will prevent flipping the tractor!
 
   / What to use as a tow chain? #22  
I loop the chain (Horror Freight tie-down chain) around the brush or log, and wrap the end around the incoming chain and clip it back on itself. This makes the chain self-tightening around the stuff I'm trying to move.

- Bart
 
   / What to use as a tow chain? #23  
I've had good luck with a logging choker from Westech Rigging. The wire rope doesn't slip off the bushes and the nub is very easy to hook up and unhook. I use a clevis or shackle to connect to the tractor.
 
   / What to use as a tow chain? #24  
I've been pulling up bushes with my B2650 using a chain. The chain can be a pain with it coming loose plus it's to big to fit into the tow hitch hole. I use chain hooks and they tend to come off.

Would a strap do better? I'm sure you guys have lots of ideas.
Learn to tie a timber hitch. I pull some big trees with my 75 high boy. I use a long chain and they reach well past the front bumper. Keep some foot long pieces of romex or tie wire so you can tie the hooks sometimes. Timber hitches can be stacked.
 
   / What to use as a tow chain? #26  
I wrap the bush twice (or more) with a chain, and I am not sure if I can explain it clearly, but the second wrap has to be behind the first wrap to lock it on to the bush. If the second wrap is in front of the first wrap it will just slip off. (The chain needs to make a cinch knot when tightened rather than just two loops that slip off). Same goes for lifting things like railroad ties.
I prefer to use smaller chain (1/4 inch) as it seem grab better than larger chains. My 47 hp tractor can ruin (stretch) a 1/4 inch chain though if pulled as absolutely hard as can be pulled.
I believe it is a Clove Hitch that you are referring to.
 
   / What to use as a tow chain? #27  
I have a 72 acres wood forest that I am finishing to cut. I Use a logger pto operating tower that can pull up to 10400 ponds of logs (Norse - Igland maker), with a 160 feets wire cable.
I bought, in 2008 , some special logger chains to be used with this equipment. You know, when doing some logging operations, BE SAFE, you guys. You don't want to be killed by an attachment that breaks up and cut your heads ...away!!!!!!!!!!!
These special chains are no more available on the market. They are 5 feet long, with a finger type rod at one end, so you can pass the chain under the log, and at the other end, a round iron rod welded to the chain. You pass the chain trough this eye rod. It strangle the log piece. They work very well. They now sell new special logger chains, but I do not like the way they are made. Those towing chains do have to be STRONG enough so not to break ,when you pull the log. If you want to make a do it yourself logging chain, be sure to find the eye metal and the chain strong enough, so you can pull au to 10000 ponds or more of pulling. I HAVE NOT FIND ANY new model on the market, acceptable for me , up to now!
Gook luck and...BE SAFE!
ZetorBoy
 
   / What to use as a tow chain? #28  
I've been pulling up bushes with my B2650 using a chain. The chain can be a pain with it coming loose plus it's to big to fit into the tow hitch hole. I use chain hooks and they tend to come off.

Would a strap do better? I'm sure you guys have lots of ideas.
Safety first!

Towing or pulling out with chains and straps can kill, which is bad for your health.
Just pulling something is less dangerous then say, pulling out a stump.
What you have to be careful of is:
1 - the burden suddenly releases causing the object and/or the chain/strap to release and launch towards you.
This could be a stump finally releasing, something with friction breaking it's hold, starting to move.
2 - chain, strap or connectors breaking under load.
The results can be very serious.

Chains and especially straps can stretch under load and how much they stretch varies greatly on the material so only buy a recognised brand so you can trust the load specified.
Straps and chains pulling capacity will deteriorate with use so check for wear and be aware of it's limitations.

LIfting chains are for lifting and pulling but its preferred to keep them just for lifting.
They're often smaller guage than pulling but stronger - better steel.
Pulling chains are only for pulling.

A light line with heavy connections can be very dangerous as the light line provides little slowing down for the heavy ends travelling at 70kmh towards your head. Ive also heard of some people having serious injuries with cables snapping and encircling the cab and the drivers neck.


I tow medium to heavy logs, branches, vehicles, troughs and most of the time use a 10 or 12mm pulling chain but make sure the line is attached as low as possible. Think about the direction the line will go if it breaks.
Get your mother in law to stand between you and the dangerous part.
When using straps, try to avoid using them in situations where they become cut, scratched. Especially if they have fine fibres.
I usually use 10,000KG straps 50mm wide to help pull over backleaning trees but Im careful to avoid them being scratched on the ground or branches, rocks. A few scratches can decrease the pulling capacity significantly.
Where the line could get scuffed, I use a 6000KG strap 75mm wide but this is a harder material that doesn't easily scratch.

If a machine doesn't have the power to pull something then use a strap or towing line with some stretching capacity and use launch control to double the initial starting force to get something moving.

If unsure about what will happen if something in the line breaks - try to simulate a breakage when under partial load and then try a few more times increasing the load.
I know when my 10,000KG lines break (and sometimes they do), it will quickly fray and turn into streams of candy floss before the connectors fall to the ground, moving towards the end of the shortest segment of line.
But another brand or type of line will act differently.

To quote Inspector Callaghan, "a mans gotta know his limitations" So get to know what your towing equipment can and can't do.

If you're using such a small machine, your problem is likely to be more dangerous than using heavy machinery because you're likely to be closer to the line and it's connectors.
I'd be very careful but more likely, I'd use a spade - or wait till you get a few jobs ready to go and then hire a 2.5+ton excavator and do a huge amount of work (and damage) in one afternoon and live to tell the tale.

I pull with a small MF-135 or if the job laughs at me, I'll be using the 13ton digger or the D-65 which are my toys for the backyard. here:


Be ye careful out there.
 
   / What to use as a tow chain? #29  
I have a 72 acres wood forest that I am finishing to cut. I Use a logger pto operating tower that can pull up to 10400 ponds of logs (Norse - Igland maker), with a 160 feets wire cable.
I bought, in 2008 , some special logger chains to be used with this equipment. You know, when doing some logging operations, BE SAFE, you guys. You don't want to be killed by an attachment that breaks up and cut your heads ...away!!!!!!!!!!!
These special chains are no more available on the market. They are 5 feet long, with a finger type rod at one end, so you can pass the chain under the log, and at the other end, a round iron rod welded to the chain. You pass the chain trough this eye rod. It strangle the log piece. They work very well. They now sell new special logger chains, but I do not like the way they are made. Those towing chains do have to be STRONG enough so not to break ,when you pull the log. If you want to make a do it yourself logging chain, be sure to find the eye metal and the chain strong enough, so you can pull au to 10000 ponds or more of pulling. I HAVE NOT FIND ANY new model on the market, acceptable for me , up to now!
Gook luck and...BE SAFE!
ZetorBoy
When did log choke chains became no longer available? I see hundreds of various ones FS using google, like this one.

 
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