What works against rodents

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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I just got another vehicle (van) back from the shop to repair damage from some kind of rodent eating the wiring. We have tried moth balls, Irish Spring, coyote urine but nothing seems to keep the little buggers away. They haven't found the tractor yet, but we park our car/truck outside. My wife doesn't want me to put poison out since we have a herd of Corgis that are in and out of the vehicles on a daily basis, but I am at wits end. :mad::mad::mad: I am looking for suggestions.
 
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I had the same issue.
Peppermint spray (amazon) has worked for me 100%
over the last 6-7 years.

In my RV, I spray the wheel covers, the cords or lines that feed up to the RV and I make sure that the heat a/c vent fan is closed or in the off position. I spray around the perimeter of the garage and across the doorway just inside enough so the rain doesn't wash it away.
 
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I zip tie it under hoods of cars, tractors. I also put out poison bars for mice in my sheds but I have not seen them chewed on since I started using Fresh Cab.
 
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I have used peppermint oil for a decade,, and recently have added cloves, where the peppermint oil failed.
Cloves (two years so far) seems to be working,, I bought one pound from Amazon,,
I am ready for the winter with that much!!
 
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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I just got another vehicle (van) back from the shop to repair damage from some kind of rodent eating the wiring. We have tried moth balls, Irish Spring, coyote urine but nothing seems to keep the little buggers away. They haven't found the tractor yet, but we park our car/truck outside. My wife doesn't want me to put poison out since we have a herd of Corgis that are in and out of the vehicles on a daily basis, but I am at wits end. :mad::mad::mad: I am looking for suggestions.
Its frustrating. The 2013 Dodge Journey had the wiring replaced 3x by the dealer, repaired 2x by me (at least half a dozen spots each time), and replaced again my the dealer I traded it in too. Fiat/Dodge, in it's infanite wisdom, decided to use soy based insulated wire that rodents just love to munch on. I found not one thing that would work other than first warranty work then insurance (which should pay for rodent damage, btw).

If you are worried the Corgis will eat the poison (and not the rodents, I hope..?) you can make a poison trap easily enough with a PVC tee, 2 ~8" lengths, 2 90*s, and another short piece with a screw on clean out. Put the clean out on the middle opening of the tee, add the lengths to the others, and glue the 90*s so they are facing opposite each other (forming a 's') so it doesn't tip easy. Place the poisoned bait in the tee, cap it, and place under your vehicle. As long as you dont have animals that will eat the rodents, like cats, you should be good.
 
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That soy thing is not exactly accurate, it was a very few years that it was used in, furthermore, how many Model Fords were eaten when they produced the body from soy?

It is the leakage current in the security systems that they are attracted to. I forget why but it the same reason they will chew on house wiring when food gets lean.

The warmth from a cooling vehicle is also attractive which is why pest eliminators will tell you the first thing you need to do is remove the foliage they hide in and use as protection when crossing areas. Since they will flee that way when you start your vehicle and hide until that nice warm blanket comes back.

Personally I have mixed results with sonic deterrents, seems to work for mice, rats are more difficult once they arrive. Either an electric trap or the old snap traps baited with something like dried fruit that they cannot lick off and their teeth stick to.

Am curious about the peppermint thing, if it works I am mopping my shop floor with mystery oil!
 
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That soy thing is not exactly accurate, it was a very few years that it was used in, furthermore, how many Model Fords were eaten when they produced the body from soy?

It is the leakage current in the security systems that they are attracted to. I forget why but it the same reason they will chew on house wiring when food gets lean.

The warmth from a cooling vehicle is also attractive which is why pest eliminators will tell you the first thing you need to do is remove the foliage they hide in and use as protection when crossing areas. Since they will flee that way when you start your vehicle and hide until that nice warm blanket comes back.

Personally I have mixed results with sonic deterrents, seems to work for mice, rats are more difficult once they arrive. Either an electric trap or the old snap traps baited with something like dried fruit that they cannot lick off and their teeth stick to.

Am curious about the peppermint thing, if it works I am mopping my shop floor with mystery oil!
Naw. It mostly injector and sensor wiring they were chewing through.

The other problem was Dodge using shredding blue jean material to use as noise insulation in the fenders. Makes for some seriously awesome nests! 🤦

According to the local Ford dealer, they are all going towards the soy based wiring eventually.
 
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Naw. It mostly injector and sensor wiring they were chewing through.

The other problem was Dodge using shredding blue jean material to use as noise insulation in the fenders. Make for some seriously awesome nests!
That is definitely true. Cozy insulation!
 
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In my part of the century that is called coyote bait...
Cats are also fox bait.

Poison poison and more poison. Use only the blocks in the pet safe container. The pellets just get taken away and you will have a engine intake full of them.
 
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Look up techflex rodent resistant wiring cover. It has capsicum in it that keeps rodents away. We have found that it is squirrels doing the damage. Leaving the hood open helps, I leave the hood open on the tractor also. There is also a ultrasonic device that you can put under the hood, not sure how well that works. They also eat the new plastic fuel lines from the tank. Dealer told me a story about a customer that kept having fuel lines damage. He brought his truck in for service one day and while they were standing there writing up the service order a squirrel came down from under the truck and ran off.
 
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I haven't had the best luck with the deterrents in the vehicles. The rodents still seem to make their way in. Because of our pets I also try to minimize the poisons, but I am not opposed to using them in hard to reach areas if I need to.

I have had good luck with a 3.5 or 5-gal bucket of water and "walk the plank" traps. I like the 3.5 gallon bucket best just so it isn't as high a climb for the little fellas! With these you also don't have to continually check to see if you need to reset the trap. Just empty the drowned buggers every now and then. Even if I don't keep up with any bait I find it will still catch them.

You can find them on Amazon if you search for RinneTraps walk the plank mouse trap.
 
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I've had mice get into my Ford F250 three times and built nests in the HVAC fan and the the evaporator cost me over 5 grand total. It finally dawned on me that the other three former trucks were diesels that were never touched and this one is gas, therefore I poured diesel fuel around the truck and bingo, no more mice.

I've tried traps but all I caught was chickadees. The cats are doing a good job but I want to cover all the bases. I also use a " critter out " spray that has peppermint as an ingredient that also works well.

By the way my Branson 3510I hasn't been touched though it's been surround
ed by mice.

Just my experience.
 
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My wife's F250 has been in the dealer's parking lot for three months awaiting a wiring harness. One month was extended to two then three. Earlier this week they said it is in route to them. A few months back I noticed the O2 sensor on the left bank of the 'ol F250 work truck was chewed in two. When I was ready to fix it and crawled under it to view the wire length and connector, the right bank had been chewed in two as well. Before installing the new sensors I wrapped a 1/2" spiral made from an aluminum can and wrapped some SS wire over it to hold in place. Right now my JD 410J is down awaiting a new coolant hose to the oil coolers which has been chewed into (I hope the critters drank their fill).

In the past an F150 had the engine and tranny pulled to replace the cab/firewall insulation. Same on a Charger SRT that was outside for only a week due to wildfires and the fire fighters said NO to garaged vehicles. In past years I've had backup generators, field eqmt. and more stuff out of service due to rodents.

I've tried the peppermint oil spray, square poison blocks, etc. I consider these things a slight deterrent. Mice are one thing but its the wood rats that are the worst. It would take a pretty big cat to keep three Catahoulas at bay. The bears and cougars know there are easier pickins elsewhere in the forest.

The one thing that is 100% effective are the Timer rattlers and the Western rattlers (with the obvious downside). Bull snakes too but rarely see them. We NEVER kill snakes - maybe relocated them....
 
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They make rodent repellent for cars. I've not tried it.

Lots of good suggestions above but the best way I have found to keep rodents out is to drive the vehicles more often, and not for a short trip. At least once a week seems to work for me. When I was driving to work a few times a week pre-covid I'd alternate so every vehicle got it's weekly trip and being parked somewhere else for the day.

The problem with poison is that often the poisoned rodents get eaten, and that poisons the predators too. Then you get even more rodents.
 
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I have mice and chipmunks. So far - KNOCK ON WOOD - they have never damaged anything. Nests in odd and unique spots - YES. I found that just about every deterrent works for a while. My urine - deer urine - Peppermint oil - dryer sheets - moth balls - etc.

The very best - at my location - a very aggressive barn cat or two or three. Eventually these cats will stray out beyond the influence of my yard light at night. They end up as a meal for the coyotes, barn owls or Great Horned owls.

Right now I have no barn cats and am continuously on the search for new ones.

I've found that leaving the hood open on all my vehicles is quite a deterrent. So ......HOOD UP on the Taco Wagon, ATV, riding mower & tractor.

BTW - I've found that trapping only satisfies my inner self. For every mouse/chipmunk I trap - there are MANY more out there in the pucker grass. Just waiting to "come on down". There is, very simply, a never ending, unlimited supply of these little buggers.
 
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Hood up, motion detecting lights on engine bay.
That's all I've found to stop them on my tractor.
 
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I've tried just about everything: no cats (I have fowl [poison isn't allowable], and while I have been able to train dogs to not harm them, I'm doubtful I could do the same with cats; and, my dog would likely chase off any cat [I prefer this as I have neighbors' cats that I don't want coming around]). Fortunately I haven't had wiring damage: shredded insulation material and generally fouling things, though. ONLY damage control that I have found to be effective is constant trapping*.

* Tip: on snap traps use peanut butter and then smoosh down a dog kibble on that; the bait is effectively secured such that it can be repeatedly used- without the kibble I've had peanut butter completely removed and the trap un-sprung!
 
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Dryer sheets, peppermint oil, barn cat.
 
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Cats are also fox bait.

Poison poison and more poison. Use only the blocks in the pet safe container. The pellets just get taken away and you will have a engine intake full of them.
In my part of the century that is called coyote bait...
We have fox and coyote and all the cats seems to survive. I have a camera in the barn and it captures cats, foxes, and raccoons prowling through all the time. We only own one outside cat and it was originally one of the neighbors barn cats but it adopted us. There are several ferels that pass through from time to time.

Haven't had much rodent damage and none so far in the barn. I did have my trailer wires chewed up so I moved them from where I use to keep them to the side of the barn where the cats frequent. I also had my well wires chewed up so after repairing those I wrapped them all with metal tape. Pretty sure that was squirrels.
 
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First, please don't use poison. Mice wander out and die, get eaten by owls or hawks...bad results.
Mice, the peppermint does work well.
My problems have always been on parked vehicles, indoors or at least out of the weather. There I go to kill traps, then just leave a few of them in the engine compartment with the mouse in the trap. If you need to drive the vehicle, just toss them out till you get back. The smell seems to deter until the dead one dries up and becomes odorless. Then, just trap kill a couple new ones. Sounds pretty primitive, but mice don't like going places that smell like dead mice.
Finally, I had a pack rat in an engine compartment once. A Victor Rat Trap ended that problem overnight.
Good luck!
 
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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I just got another vehicle (van) back from the shop to repair damage from some kind of rodent eating the wiring. We have tried moth balls, Irish Spring, coyote urine but nothing seems to keep the little buggers away. They haven't found the tractor yet, but we park our car/truck outside. My wife doesn't want me to put poison out since we have a herd of Corgis that are in and out of the vehicles on a daily basis, but I am at wits end. :mad::mad::mad: I am looking for suggestions.
Tractor is kept in a carport for us. We have 2 rolling log mouse traps, one in each corner. They average about 6-8 mice per week. We also keep cabfresh under the hood to repel any survivors from getting to wires or air cleaner elements. Get a cat too
 
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With all due respect, nope. For rodents, kill traps only. Live traps are for critters that can be relocated somewhere.

Another option would be rat snakes or king snakes.
King Snakes get rid of copperhead snakes also. The eat them. I have property in the woods. When dynamiting the water line, I stirred up several snakes. I moved a Speckled king snake up to my front yard. Haven't seen a copperhead in 30 years.
My neighbor put out that boundry stuff. He was bitten 3 times in the first 2 years. Guess it kept the copperheads in.
 
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Our dog chased stray cats out of our area.
Unfortunately it pretty much ignored bobcats that ate chickens.
Fox here are friends with the cats; my understanding is that very small cats may be attacked but foxes are about the same weight class as most cats and they don't bother each other.
I've had rodents bother diesels; I agree with the "use it or lose it" philosophy (this is why my tractor is parked in a rodent-safe container! Because sometimes it's not used for a few weeks and rodents would do their thing to it)
 
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I have had success with several types of traps (snap (peanut butter & bread) and the sticky traps (only for small mice)). In my shop, I use the electronic traps such as the "rat zapper" type. Throw a few grains of corn in the back and turn it on. The only issue is sometimes the trap is triggered without a kill I think when it is very dry conditions.
The most helpful things to get rid of mice have been to clean up my mess, and more importantly I took down all bird feeders !
 
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I've been driving down the road at 55 mph in my company truck and had a mouse come up out by the windshield wipers and crawl around on the cowl. That truck certainly doesn't spend much time at rest. This time of year they are looking for places to winter over and can move in overnight. I tried leaving my hood up but it snowed that night...

A couple of years ago I cooked supper on the grill and left the hood up. The next morning there was a big mouse nest built on the grill rack. Oddly enough that was also the first night that somebody had mentioned leaving the hood up...
 
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This time of year they are looking for places to winter over and can move in overnight. I tried leaving my hood up but it snowed that night..
This time of year it is still quite warm. Lows rarely reach the 60s. Highs in the low to mid 90s. Winter is a week, maybe two, when the temps get below 30 at night. Not sure how many mice move in for those 2 weeks. ;). Maybe put your truck in a garage with the hood up, if it snows in your garage...it sounds like you have a new project to do.

Side note, with all of the advancement in wireless chargers and Bluetooth...I wonder if they could significantly reduce wiring in engines....just a thought....
 
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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I just got another vehicle (van) back from the shop to repair damage from some kind of rodent eating the wiring. We have tried moth balls, Irish Spring, coyote urine but nothing seems to keep the little buggers away. They haven't found the tractor yet, but we park our car/truck outside. My wife doesn't want me to put poison out since we have a herd of Corgis that are in and out of the vehicles on a daily basis, but I am at wits end. :mad::mad::mad: I am looking for suggestions.
Tom Cat or Tom Kat green rectangles come in a white tub with green and black, maybe some yellow writing and pictures, with a hole through the center for places where you string them on a wire. Weatherproof. Put them out and when they disappear, replace.

One day they will not need replacing but keep them out and fresh for new arrivals. I have all but eliminated rodents from baby mice to field rats.....and some rabbits...but I didn't plan on that and try to put them where rabbits can't get to them.

Raccoons love them and aren't affected so if outside put in a box with baffles where they can't get their little prying hands on them. Rats love the box as it's a good hiding/nesting spot.....but temporary.....grin.
 
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Tom Cat or Tom Kat green rectangles come in a white tub with green and black, maybe some yellow writing and pictures, with a hole through the center for places where you string them on a wire. Weatherproof. Put them out and when they disappear, replace.

One day they will not need replacing but keep them out and fresh for new arrivals. I have all but eliminated rodents from baby mice to field rats.....and some rabbits...but I didn't plan on that and try to put them where rabbits can't get to them.

Raccoons love them and aren't affected so if outside put in a box with baffles where they can't get their little prying hands on them. Rats love the box as it's a good hiding/nesting spot.....but temporary.....grin.
Thanks. At my place getting rabbits is a bonus. Wife does not want them getting her garden.
 
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I had rats chewing on my injector wires. I put out bait blocks and the rats just carried them up into the engine compartment. I got live traps and caught several, then I let Mr Ruger have a brief talk with them. Live traps seemed to have solved my rat problem.
 
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What works better than peanut butter on the snap traps?? The little buggers here just lick it off without tripping the trap. I catch a few when the traps are new, but then the catch rate drops. If the (copper?) plating on the wire gets rusty, I think they tend to stick and not fire. Good suggestions above. This is my first winter in the country, and need to prepare for battle!

The Victor electronic trap seems worthless. Never catches anything, but the little light flashes as if it fired...
 
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I did have one incident where a mouse chewed through a fuel return line on my backhoe,,, TWICE. I put a small amount of rid a rat on the intake and it didn't happen again.
 
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What works better than peanut butter on the snap traps?? The little buggers here just lick it off without tripping the trap. I catch a few when the traps are new, but then the catch rate drops. If the (copper?) plating on the wire gets rusty, I think they tend to stick and not fire. Good suggestions above. This is my first winter in the country, and need to prepare for battle!

The Victor electronic trap seems worthless. Never catches anything, but the little light flashes as if it fired...
I provided a solution in a previous post: smoosh a dog kibble down on the peanut butter. I have yet to have a trap baited in such a way as this get emptied.

Get the heavy duty Victor plastic traps. I've found, however, that the plastic wedge ones, while readily empty-able, have issues with being set (too sensitive). Old style, heavy duty, plastic Victor (they're beige).
 
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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I just got another vehicle (van) back from the shop to repair damage from some kind of rodent eating the wiring. We have tried moth balls, Irish Spring, coyote urine but nothing seems to keep the little buggers away. They haven't found the tractor yet, but we park our car/truck outside. My wife doesn't want me to put poison out since we have a herd of Corgis that are in and out of the vehicles on a daily basis, but I am at wits end. :mad::mad::mad: I am looking for suggestions.
We want pictures of the Corgis!!!
But back to the thread -
I've been lucky, up until Covid 19.
I've the place in Mississippi with 5,400 sq ft of "workshops"

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Had a MAJOR mouse problem to begin with (the last guy used the sheds for party and food scraps were all around). Careful application of poisons (up high enough the dogs couldn't reach) and allowing snakes nocked the population down. But I have been using mothballs in the tractor engine compartment. No wiring damage yet

BUT with Covid 19 I got "stranded" in Mississippi and did not move my 1988 Ford E350 van in Virginia. The van has been setting basically as a "storage" area for 8 years or so. Only driven about 20 miles a year, mainly to get inspected. Finally got back form Ms. found they had chewed the wiring :(

That van had been sitting in about the same place since 1988.

I'd recommend the snake poop.
 
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What works better than peanut butter on the snap traps?? The little buggers here just lick it off without tripping the trap. I catch a few when the traps are new, but then the catch rate drops. If the (copper?) plating on the wire gets rusty, I think they tend to stick and not fire. Good suggestions above. This is my first winter in the country, and need to prepare for battle!

The Victor electronic trap seems worthless. Never catches anything, but the little light flashes as if it fired...
Dried fruit, jam it on. They cant lick it off and it sticks to their teeth, have never had an empty rat trap with the bait missing since going this route.
 
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as someone else mentioned - kibble on the PB. or a peanut. Also, ultrasonic noise things, if u have AC power.
 
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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I just got another vehicle (van) back from the shop to repair damage from some kind of rodent eating the wiring. We have tried moth balls, Irish Spring, coyote urine but nothing seems to keep the little buggers away. They haven't found the tractor yet, but we park our car/truck outside. My wife doesn't want me to put poison out since we have a herd of Corgis that are in and out of the vehicles on a daily basis, but I am at wits end. :mad::mad::mad: I am looking for suggestions.
Use poison.. the kind that is a green block of bait. You can place it in a tube or box that other critters can't get to.. That is "if" you want to get rid of the mice, and not just allow them free reign.

To keep the mice from re-nesting in the same spot (they come back to their pee smell and are hard to discourage after that) use a spray mix of water and bleach. That will cover their pee smell and they won't come back.
Forget the idea of moth balls. Doesn't work.
 
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Peppermint oil poured on cotton balls in a old pill bottle and moth balls..
 
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I use Bounce dryer sheets in my pickup cab and tractor cab with good results.
Also remove trash especially anything worth eating.
From what I have read mice leave a urine trail wherever they go that other mice will follow. Perhaps a good soap down and pressure wash might help.
My spouse uses cotton balls and peppermint oil in the basement but they only last a few months at best so I keep traps out baited with peanut butter.
 
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SnagDump

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I use a combination for mice and chipmunks:
>Dryer sheets in openings they want to crawl thru.
>Keep the hood open or the skid steer door open all spring summer and early fall.
>Toss some of those fabric softener pellets into the engine area and cab every now and then. At least some of them will land in a spot where they'll stay.
>An unbaited trap in one corner of the skid steer cab where they have to go to climb up to the headliner which is a spot they want to get to.
 
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TractorGuy

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I use a combination for mice and chipmunks:
>Dryer sheets in openings they want to crawl thru.
>Keep the hood open or the skid steer door open all spring summer and early fall.
>Toss some of those fabric softener pellets into the engine area and cab every now and then. At least some of them will land in a spot where they'll stay.
>An unbaited trap in one corner of the skid steer cab where they have to go to climb up to the headliner which is a spot they want to get to.
A good solution for openings is steel wool. I owned a building onece with a pipe coming through a wall they would enter around. I tried packing stuff in the hole and taping it up and they would chew through. Finally packed it with steel wool and no more mice.
 
 
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