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Re: torquing wheel bolts

Fredoroberts, I guess I'm bad about not covering everything in one shot /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif but some other points you might consider:

1. You say you don't have a manual and don't know what the target torque for wheel bolts should be. Well, wen said it's 208 ft.lbs. on his bigger tractor, and my owner's manual for the B2710 says 57 to 67 on the front (shop manual says 57.1 to 66.5) and 145 to 166 on the rear (shop manual says 80 to 93). So, it ain't an exact science, and I wouldn't think your B2150 would need to be tighter than the B2710.

2. You say you bought an impact wrench that puts out 600 ft.lbs. in reverse and it had to work hard to get them off. It should have spun them off quite easily. So . . ., I'd consider whether they had rusted and that made them hard to take off, or whether someone in the past simply put them on tighter than they needed to be. Unless of course, you didn't have adequate air pressure (90 psi) or volume, or you have a defective impact wrench (not too likely).

In my humble opinion, it's more important to tighten all of them the same than it is to get an exact degree of tightness. And the way I do that is to run'em all down barely snug, then tighten one, move directly to one on the opposite side (180 degrees if you have an even number of lug bolts, or as close to it as possible if an odd number), tighten that one, and work back and forth that way.

Bird
 
   / wheel bolts #22  
Re: torquing wheel bolts

Sorry Bird---Didn't mean to make it more complex than it needed to be./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Just curious do you ever sell any used air tools -thanks- you can e-mail me if you do
Gordon
 
   / wheel bolts #23  
Re: torquing wheel bolts

Sometimes seemingly simple things just get complex; at least for me/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif. Part of the reason I've liked some of Mark Chalkley's lengthy dissertations, I guess./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif Sometimes I need lots of explanation myself.

The demand for used air tools greatly exceeds the supply, but I go through repossessed and trade-ins and they go back on the trucks and are promptly sold (all with a 90 day warranty, of course).

Bird
 
   / wheel bolts #24  
Re: torquing wheel bolts

It's the same all over then for air tools that is supply versus demand for quality air tools. Thanks for the info
I must admit Mark is the KING when it comes to a through explaination without a doubt. Some of his past posts are very informative and have taught me alot as well as everyone elses.
My spelling and grammer are terrible but I get buy./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Gordon
 
   / wheel bolts #25  
Re: torquing wheel bolts

Bird - Thanks! And thanks for not saying what you thought of the rest of them! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

When I first started posting messages about some of the experiments I was trying, I got a bunch of emails from folks asking for more details, so I ended up answering the same questions half a dozen times. I took to copying the the text from one reply and pasting it to others. Then I got to thinking that probably less than half of those who had questions would ask. After that I decided to be a little more explanatory in my posts, and the rest is history... (well, jokes and ridicule, too /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif)

Mark
 
   / wheel bolts #26  
Re: torquing wheel bolts

Gordon - Your post came in while I was typing my reply to Bird's. Thanks again!

It's pretty impressive, the way so much info gets distributed for free here, isn't it? I've learned a lot, too.

Mark
 
   / wheel bolts #27  
Re: torquing wheel bolts

Strengh in numbers thats for sure and what is even better is that people from all over post and that helps with very different views. Also very different tractor uses. My 3750 is in the shop should get it back tomorrow if all goes well.

Oh yea so you don't get a big head or something---I do think some of your posts are Ka Ka but thats the great thing about this board many different views all correct in their own way but I might not agree with them and when I don't I'll let it be known. Hows that for a classic run on sentence. HA /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Your welcome and so is everyone else for the great info shared here.
Gordon
 
   / wheel bolts #28  
Re: torquing wheel bolts

Something I remember from an article I read many years ago discussed the importance of clean threads and a lubricated nut/bolt, as well as the mating surface (like the taper on the wheels). The amount of torque error is obviously compounded by friction, its smart to use a product like anti-seize for many applications, then again, I use threadlocker alot too. You need to be the judge. Wheels always get anti-seize.

I have a SnapOn 250 ft lb torque wrench but I bent it torquing down the flywheel on my old VW's. They took at least 245ft lbs, and then some manuals would say go another 1/4 turn past the 245lb torque, I used to use a breaker bar, but they would SnapOff, guess I needed a SnapOn!
 

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