Hello. The other thing I noticed is that we are in a Kioti discussion group, but there are lots of people pushing/advising other brands---but yet they dont own or have never owned a Kioti... Why do that to a newcomer? Ive been lurking in the shadows of TBN for over a year and have noticed alot of this. I just bought one because unlike any of the other dealers up here, they were the only one that would let me drive any of their tractors! He had Massy and Kioti. Now as for the at home test with delivery "before you buy"---must be nice! Im going out on a limb here, but Id say its safe to say nobody does that up here. They dont have time. People are buying the machines faster than they can get them in---especially the Kioti's. Its not fun to shop, because it is alot of money for most of us, but once you get the machine, (in my recent experience it was Kioti) you will feel relieved! Plus, you can get all those projects completed you promised your wife! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif