Where are all the laborers?

   / Where are all the laborers? #21  
I have to use crutches to get around and even with that can't make it very far.

I would be tickled to death to be able to get off the tractor and do it myself.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:I know exactly what you mean. Best wishes and take care.
 
   / Where are all the laborers? #22  
Son in law has a Hydro seeding business and for help has been using Firemen off duty nothing to do . Healthy and used to pulling 3 inch hoses.
The Needing workers will not work . The free plastic card for there needs(Wants) and extra if there is children.
Medical treatment for any illness. cell phone for all children .
And work cuts into the hunting fishing 4 whling on others land.
Been studying Ayn Ryan's author of the speach of John Gault The time is coming when it is to true.
Moochers .
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#23  
In my high school days, many of us found work mixing mud by hand for brick layers during the summer. I'd bet you won't find many of the kids these days who would even consider doing that even with a mud mixing machine.

No kidding! Last summer I had the kid and his friend dig 40 post holes with a two-man auger in a backyard in Decatur. You shoulda heard the whining. Granted it was hot, but you'd think I'd forced them to spend the day with the devil himself!
 
   / Where are all the laborers? #24  
I commend you for not wanting to hire illegals but if you want someone to work cheap, who will be there seven days a week, who will work from sunup to sundown and bust their butts doing it - with some training, go with an illegal. It's what many, many businesses do for the above reasons. No complaints, no raises, etc. Perfect employees except for the language barrier.

...and this just about sums it up. They are here and they have to eat. Better to pay for the work you need done than have them turn to crime. Find one you like and you will cry the day he has to leave....
 
   / Where are all the laborers? #25  
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:I know exactly what you mean. Best wishes and take care.

I think we are pretty much in the same boat and hated to even bring it up. Not complaining, it could always be worse. My sons say they will keep me going if they have to get a motorized wheel chair with knobbies on it.:laughing:

My father in law had heart problems and double hip replacements and he kept crawling up on the tractor until the day he died driving it up behind our house working on a road.
 
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I commend you for not wanting to hire illegals but if you want someone to work cheap, who will be there seven days a week, who will work from sunup to sundown and bust their butts doing it - with some training, go with an illegal. It's what many, many businesses do for the above reasons. No complaints, no raises, etc. Perfect employees except for the language barrier.

...and this just about sums it up. They are here and they have to eat. Better to pay for the work you need done than have them turn to crime. Find one you like and you will cry the day he has to leave....

No thanks. And I'm not pulling the holier than thou card. I've employed a lot of questionably legal hispanics in the past that I miss a bunch. In fact, I can name each and every one of them. I always required a green card or social, but I know that some of them were bogus. I looked the other way because they were excellent employees and great guys to be around. I'm just not going to go there again.
 
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#27  
I think we are pretty much in the same boat and hated to even bring it up. Not complaining, it could always be worse. My sons say they will keep me going if they have to get a motorized wheel chair with knobbies on it.:laughing:

My father in law had heart problems and double hip replacements and he kept crawling up on the tractor until the day he died driving it up behind our house working on a road.

I completely understand and don't want you to think I'm lazy for wanting to stay on the equipment. It's self preservation. I'm a concrete finisher by trade and hated the day I finally had to put my bucket of trowels away and say no to it. I loved finishing concrete.

I've had two back surgeries, double joint replacements in my feet (twice) and nerve relocation surgery in my arm. I can still get down and do all of the ground work when I have to, but usually pay dearly for it. I still have three under my roof to feed and raise, so this body has to last awhile longer.
 
   / Where are all the laborers? #28  
I completely understand and don't want you to think I'm lazy for wanting to stay on the equipment. It's self preservation. I'm a concrete finisher by trade and hated the day I finally had to put my bucket of trowels away and say no to it. I loved finishing concrete.

I've had two back surgeries, double joint replacements in my feet (twice) and nerve relocation surgery in my arm. I can still get down and do all of the ground work when I have to, but usually pay dearly for it. I still have three under my roof to feed and raise, so this body has to last awhile longer.

I can sure understand that. I don't think anyone is lazy and sure don't pass judgement; someone else brought it up telling someone to get off the tractor and do it themselves rather than hire it done.

One of my sons is in a similar situation to you in that by looking at him, he looks fine and can actually do a lot of work, but pays dearly for it.

Now you can take one look at me and know I can't do much. Not too long ago, my twin grand daughters were helping me and explained to my wife, "He's too old to pick up sticks." Cracked me up.:laughing:
 
   / Where are all the laborers? #29  
Finding any consistent help has been a problem for me ever since I moved here to Texas.

Try finding a recently released prisoner...someone who was imprisoned for a non-violent offense, of course.
 
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Good idea Roy. And I'll agree on the non-violent offender tip. One of my best workers ever was a parolee for attempted murder! No kidding. I found out three years AFTER he started working for me. Most humble guy I've ever known and never complained. The guy was muscle from head to toe and could outwork any two other guys on my crew. He worked for me for seven years and then I set him up with a contractor friend before I moved. He worked with that contractor until he went back to prison...for first degree murder! Glad I never witnessed his "anger management" problem firsthand!

I just got back from the store where I met a guy that works for a local ranch. He said that three of the guys just got a three week layoff, so I may have help until the kids get out of school.
 

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