Which oil is king?

   / Which oil is king? #81  
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If you really want to know oil try bobistheoilguy.com. Yes Bob is a Schaeffer salesman. However, Schaeffer's forbids its sales reps from selling or quoting prices over the internet . I think its a sales territory thing.

Bob's site is sponsored by two or three Amsoil guys, a Mobil dealer, an oil trent analysis company, a by-pass filter mfg, and a lube oil additive company. None of which gets preferential treatment on the site.

They frequently have this debate on who makes the best oil. Of course that question has never been answered to everyones satisfactions. Nor will it ever be.

The greatest thing about bob's site is people post their oil analysis results for everyone to see. Its a great way to get around Oil Company ad hype.
 
   / Which oil is king? #82  
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Sage,

Chevy/GMC is going to a 6 speed auto and 350 hp!!! )</font>

That will be cool... Now with the "late in year" 04 revised injectors and heads, plus the new turbo with 350 hp, it may become top dog again.

I'm going to need a juice box, better muffler, afe filter, new transmission, just to keep up. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Which oil is king? #83  
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"Think you'd find a real difference between new coke and the original coke."

Yes I can. Had a friend in college who could tell you the plant a can of coke came from without looking at the code on the bottom. Kinda like wine snobs who can tell you which field the grapes came out on that bottle of 92 lafite /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

When it comes to oil I am of the belief that the frequency of oil change has far more impact on engine life than the brand on the label as long as the oil you use meets the manufacturers recommendations (api spec and grade). I only put 10,000 miles on my car every year and waiting 6000 miles to change the oil is too long.

I am currently using up the valvoline I bought at costco. Just bought a f350 diesel and will probably be switching to either delo or rotila simply so I can have one jug of oil on the shelf. The one I buy will be the one that I can find a steady supply of at a decent price since the truck uses a bunch of it.
 
   / Which oil is king? #84  
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XLA is a marketing ploy i reckon it is the calcium something they use as base oil i guess. same thing with mobil 1 and tri-synthetic then super-syn.

on the ford the ford auto has 6 forward speeds according to dieselman. as you can hold certian member of planetaries or let them spin and change gearing.

i have a older pre-99 powerstroke and we looked to trade to 2003 down in knoxville the one i got in was king ranch black all features the first one i drove was 6spd it had tons of power and was pretty nice so we drove it to there second lot to drive a automatic. believe it or not the first corner we turned on main road the check engine light came on and it pretty much was it.

seems to me like they have same problems they had since i worked on them i've seen problems on oil seal, oil seals, and ipr and related pcm programming. but they are far ahead of any of the other makes in power and general technology. Interesting story on heui as with caterpillar/international connection the 3206 runs equaly well.

on the diesel subject chrysler has bought i think 100,000 tdi vw engines for us consumption some time in 2004 in some of there vehicles not sure what size i think it might be 2.5L or 3L diesel. simular to what ford had planned with international v6 diesel in explorer's and f-150's. The first diesel engine will be the little liberty a italian diesel not sure of name i think 10K to be built for this year?
 
   / Which oil is king? #85  
Hey-CD:

You better change the primary oil in your Ski-don't or it may leave you on the side of the trail while the Cats scream by!! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
   / Which oil is king? #86  
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The original coke had real coke in it!

Egon
 
   / Which oil is king? #87  
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Richard:

This thread is getting tediously long but...

I read that Powerstrokes leak, their slow their noisy, cummins are better, duramaxes are better, etc.

It's just like the "King of Oil" It's whatever you are happy with, that's called "freedom of choice" and thank goodness we live in America so we have that freedom.

Now on to this....

Someday, I am going to start a thread on my Powerstroke. I bought it new in 1997. It's a crew cab, long bed 4wd. I knew the warranty was going out the window right away as soon as I started wrenching on it. Anyway, here are the mods..

ORU shackle reversal and front axle flip.
Energy Suspension Urethane bushings throughout
Custom machined roller bearing spring mounts (I own a machine shop too)
Drive line completely greasable including upper and lower knuckles
Super U universal joints throughout
Oil bath front hubs (custom machined by me)
6" lift
Detroit lockers front and rear
Air lift rear bags with on board compressor
Hayden 12 pass swirl cool transmission cooler
Jet E4-OD with B&M prototype valve body and deep sump pan (courtesy of my brother-in-law and Ford SVO, Dearborn, Mi)
Complete Gail Banks Kit on the engine and custom re-working of the turbo by me. Maximum boost, 29 pounds.
Complete gages Trans temp, boost, oil temp, pyrometer, oil temp and oil pressure.
5" straight exhaust.
I think I listed all the mods. This truck will run out at the red line on the tach. With the Jet, It goes into lockup firewalled at 80 mph. It will flat smoke the tires and I run 305-75-16 All terrain TA Ko's. The one two shift will chirp the tires and every shift is very and I mean very firm, including lockup.
We put the truck on the dyno (My day job employer has a 2000 hp dyno that I can use)
The Ford made a little over 350 ponies at the rear wheels at an indicated 60 mph in direct (we locked the od out). The hard part of the dyno run was keeping the truck from jumping as it shifted. We had it chained to the floor through the receiver hitch.
The best part...I average 20.1 mpg highway and I have 4:10 gears.
Being an old fart, I don't do the stoplight thing, but if I get goaded a little, I don't mind mopping up a Dodge or a Chevy or another Ford. Not very often though, I already know I can wipe 'em out.

Remember, when a manufacturer rates the horsepower and torque of an engine, whether it is Ford, GM or Daimler, they rate Flywheel horsepower. Real world horsepower is what the rear wheels put to the ground. Your average driveline loss is about 20%

I also haul hay with it. I have a tandem axle gooseneck that I regularly haul 17-20 round's on. I was concerned about transmission temperature, but it never goes above 210 degrees.

I think about a new one, but the old one is too good to sell, besides, I don't want to do all that again.

And I do use Delvac in the engine and Dexron III Mercon in the trans. Nothing fancy, no additives, no junk. Just regular changes and filters. I do change the trans fluid every 12,000 miles and the filter too.

My powerstroke leaks too, but it's my fault. When I modified the turbo, I replaced the o rings in the inlet-outlet oil lines with Caterpillar o rings, should have used the International part!!!

Now, the Ford bashers want to talk about leaks, my Caterpillar 3406-E leaks too. It leaks from the back of the head and runs down the side of the block. The air compressor leaks oil too. Even $12,000.00 engines leak oil!!
 
   / Which oil is king? #88  
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Shady:

It's Hydraulically actuated unit injectors. International Harvester sold the right to Caterpillar to manufacture the system so that Cat could meet emmission standards in their mid-range vocational engines. IH won an SAE design excellence award for the injection system.

I could go on for pages about why Cummins withdrew from the heavy diesel market or why DDEC is really light years ahead of the other engine builders but I won't. I have a yellow motor. It's a good motor but could be improved upon.
 
   / Which oil is king? #89  
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Great post, nice truck. Sounds like a masterpiece. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Any pics of your front hubs? Sounds interesting. How many miles on the engine at that power level? One fellow I saw says he has over 300K on his powerstroke with 380 rear wheel horse power. Hard to believe, after you see how he drives. He runs a 4100 modified trans and likes to use it, his rear tires are always worn.
 
   / Which oil is king? #90  
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Sagebrush:

I could send you a copy of the print if you want. I always do drawings for future reference. You can't really see any difference from the outside. I exchanged the stationary seals for rotating seals, re-machined the inner spindle to accept a rotating seal, drilled and tapped a fill hole. I don't seem to have a problem with thermal expansion/ oil expulsion.

I don't have a lot of miles on the truck. I don't drive it in the winter much and I don't drive it to work. I have a "beater" for that. I use delvac in my "beater" too. My "beater" has 250,000 miles on it. Rusty, but still trusty.
 

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