Bill you are going to be
dangeriously overloaded with either the CK25 or 30.
The CK30-Gear tractor weights 3042#.
The CK30-HST tractor weighs 3055#.
The KL-130 loader weighs 770#.
So the tractor and the loader will weigh roughly 3820#.
Assume roughly 500# up to 800# for the brush cutter
Assume roughly 500# up to 700# for the tiller
Assume roughly 500# for the liquid filled tires.
Assume roughly 80# for a full tank of diesel in the tractor
Assume roughly 200# for 6 chains and binders to comply with DOT standards
Assume the trailer, which is rated for 7000# has an empty weight of 1600# (presumes a 16' trailer) or 2000# (presumes a 20' trailer).
If you have an 1800# (18') trailer, you are up to
3580# in weight without the tractor. That leaves you 3420# of capacity for the tractor, loader & backhoe.
(Tiller + Brush Cutter were both calculated at only 500# each, so it is very possible the total combined weight could = 4080#)
3580 (trailer, implements, fluids) +
3820 (tractor) =
7400# without the backhoe.
You are over the rated trailer capcity by 400# without the backhoe. Add a backhoe, which weighs over 1000#
(when you incude the weight of the bucket) and you are now 1400# over the trailer capacity and and 700# over the truck's capacity. Also consider that a CK30 tractor, loader, backhoe won't fit on an 18' trailer so step up to a 20' trailer and your trailer weight also goes up about 200#, which now means that your total weight is 1600# pounds over your trailer capacity (
you are already at 8600# on a 7000# trailer ), and # over the truck's tow capacity.
Now if you are in the landscaping business, then it is reasonable to assume you will have shovels, tools, extra fuel cans, drinking water, and other things on the trailer.
You will easily be at 9500# (and could be up to 10,000# if your implements weigh over 500# each)
on a 7000# trailer.
- Now if anyone tells you a 7000# trailer can safely hold that, they are a liar.
- If anyone tells you your truck can safely tow that, they are a liar.
- If you think your truck's transmission and brakes will hold up for the long term, you are mistaken.
- You are also in violation of commercial towing laws and better hope the DOT inspectors don't grab you because they could possibly impound your whole rig.
BTW . . . if you downsized to a CK20, a 48" rotary cutter, a 48" tiller then your weights will be roughly:
- 1675# = tractor: 1193# + 400# for liquid fill + 80# fuel (in the tractor's fuel tank)
- 650# = loader
- 885# = backhoe: 785# hoe + 100# bucket
- 400# = tiller: 400# to 600#
- 400# = cutter: 400# to 650#
- 200# = chains and binders
- 1800# = approximate raw trailer weight, 18' trailer
- Add another 400# for additional fuel, tools, water, supplies
- 6410# = total combined weight of CK20, trailer + supplies
Using the CK20 with your truck & trailer gives you a modest amount of safety capacity. Even if you used a heavy duty tiller + HD rotary cutter, your total weight would likely be in the range of 6850#. Not much margin for error here, but still just under your legal maximum capacity.
If you need to use a larger rotary cutter and larger tiller than the CK20's PTO HP can manage, then you better look at a different brand that offers a lighter weight tractor with greater engine/PTO horsepower. A Kubota
B7800 is a 30hp tractor that weighs a little more than the CK20 and powers the same size implements as the CK30. It is a basic machine without some of the nice features the CK offers, it has lower lift capacity than the CK30 too, but the tractor weighs about 1741# (add ~450# for fluid fill and you are under 2200# for the tractor) you will be pushing your trailer capacity but still stay under 7000# with a
B7800 configured as the CK20 is configured.
The other option is to move up to a bigger truck and bigger trailer to haul a CK25/30 tractor.
