RichM752
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After moving rocks for days.
Which WICKED Grapple? A Guide.
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RichM752
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Oh you know it Travis. I worked that grapple hard. I'll get it cleaned up and torture some more.
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dannoGT
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Farm Out man
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This 400 pound Wicked 60 rake style grapple is really showing off.
Ultra Strong. Incredibly Lightweight. Load is close. Amazing happens!
Here's what Richard, the MX5800 & Wicked owner from Michigan has to say about these pics:
"Didn't have anything better to do so I looked for the biggest stump I could find. Fragile this thing IS NOT!!! Thank you EA! Merica :united-states:
When I started to get off the tractor the first time (to take pics) it started to teeter forward. I had to regrip it & shake some of the dirt out! It's all of 1,500 pounds & the tree was cut down a week ago so the stump still has a lot of moisture in it."
This is 58 horsepower, but, like our L6060, the Kioti NX series, the Deere 4000 series..... They are STILL compact tractors!
All of this with only a landscape rake for ballast.
I remember when a sub 500 pound grapple was considered lightweight. Now, we have 150 pound, 200 pound, 300 pound, 400 pound, 500 pound, 600 pound, 700 pound 800 pound, and 900+ pound models.
Don't settle, folks.
I am here to help you choose the BEST grapple on the planet to maximize your tractor's ability.
Travis
Ultra Strong. Incredibly Lightweight. Load is close. Amazing happens!
Here's what Richard, the MX5800 & Wicked owner from Michigan has to say about these pics:
"Didn't have anything better to do so I looked for the biggest stump I could find. Fragile this thing IS NOT!!! Thank you EA! Merica :united-states:
When I started to get off the tractor the first time (to take pics) it started to teeter forward. I had to regrip it & shake some of the dirt out! It's all of 1,500 pounds & the tree was cut down a week ago so the stump still has a lot of moisture in it."
This is 58 horsepower, but, like our L6060, the Kioti NX series, the Deere 4000 series..... They are STILL compact tractors!
All of this with only a landscape rake for ballast.
I remember when a sub 500 pound grapple was considered lightweight. Now, we have 150 pound, 200 pound, 300 pound, 400 pound, 500 pound, 600 pound, 700 pound 800 pound, and 900+ pound models.
Don't settle, folks.
I am here to help you choose the BEST grapple on the planet to maximize your tractor's ability.
Travis
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After I decided that I WAS going to buy a grapple, I did this. Checked out two local sources - ANBO, north 70 miles in Colville, WA and Land Pride at the local Kubota dealership. Asked the question - in my tractor size, what type grapple are most folks buying - rock & root overwhelming. I have no undesirable brush on my 80 acres, mostly large rock to move and enormous chunks of ancient Ponderosa pine. The tines on a rock & root are shorter, thicker and generally less likely to bend. I checked the lift capacity of my FEL - 16" forward of the pivot pins and 15" off the ground.
My heavy lift graph shows that at 15" off the ground my FEL will lift 1950Kg( 4300 pounds) at a point 16" forward of the pivot pins.
I did not want a real wide grapple - again, no brush to gather.
I ended up with the Land Pride SGC 1560. 60" wide and 820 pounds - a TRUE beast. I had a WR Long third function valve installed. The dealer installed the entire unit. The Kubota dealer gave me a great package price PLUS pickup and return at no added cost. It would have cost close to an added $1200 dollars to have my tractor delivered to ANBO and returned. In my opinion - ANBO and the Land Pride SGC 1560 are equal in quality.
The point - 16" forward of the pivot pins was at the mid point of the grapple jaws - wide open.
Be aware - the lift capacity of my FEL was listed at around 2800 pounds. That's because Kubota uses a point 36" forward of the pivot pins and 32" off the ground. This substantially reduces the lift capacity and DOES NOT represent the center of the grapple. Go forward of the pivot pins - lift decreased. Go higher - lift decreases.
Know EXACTLY what you are going to be doing with your grapple. Look at the lift charts for your FEL in the FEL Op Manual - not what the manufacturer lists under general specs. As in my case, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference. All this research because this, at least for me, is a MAJOR purchase. Grapple - $3175, WR Long 3rd function valve with all plumbing & new joy stick - $1195.
Bottom line - lift capacity of 4300 pounds minus the grapple weight 820 pounds = 3480 pounds. I've NEVER lifted that much. With my 1100 pound Rhino rear blade on the 3-point and 1550 pounds of Rim Guard in the rear tires - I start getting pretty squirrely at around 3200 pounds.
I've had this grapple four and a half years now. Never had to put the bucket back on the FEL. Never had a moments problem with the grapple.
Am I pleased - NO, I'm ecstatic. Like my FEL - the grapple will probably never come off the tractor.
My heavy lift graph shows that at 15" off the ground my FEL will lift 1950Kg( 4300 pounds) at a point 16" forward of the pivot pins.
I did not want a real wide grapple - again, no brush to gather.
I ended up with the Land Pride SGC 1560. 60" wide and 820 pounds - a TRUE beast. I had a WR Long third function valve installed. The dealer installed the entire unit. The Kubota dealer gave me a great package price PLUS pickup and return at no added cost. It would have cost close to an added $1200 dollars to have my tractor delivered to ANBO and returned. In my opinion - ANBO and the Land Pride SGC 1560 are equal in quality.
The point - 16" forward of the pivot pins was at the mid point of the grapple jaws - wide open.
Be aware - the lift capacity of my FEL was listed at around 2800 pounds. That's because Kubota uses a point 36" forward of the pivot pins and 32" off the ground. This substantially reduces the lift capacity and DOES NOT represent the center of the grapple. Go forward of the pivot pins - lift decreased. Go higher - lift decreases.
Know EXACTLY what you are going to be doing with your grapple. Look at the lift charts for your FEL in the FEL Op Manual - not what the manufacturer lists under general specs. As in my case, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference. All this research because this, at least for me, is a MAJOR purchase. Grapple - $3175, WR Long 3rd function valve with all plumbing & new joy stick - $1195.
Bottom line - lift capacity of 4300 pounds minus the grapple weight 820 pounds = 3480 pounds. I've NEVER lifted that much. With my 1100 pound Rhino rear blade on the 3-point and 1550 pounds of Rim Guard in the rear tires - I start getting pretty squirrely at around 3200 pounds.
I've had this grapple four and a half years now. Never had to put the bucket back on the FEL. Never had a moments problem with the grapple.
Am I pleased - NO, I'm ecstatic. Like my FEL - the grapple will probably never come off the tractor.
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I'm glad you like your grapple. It's a little heavy for my taste, but sounds like a great addition that is putting in fork for ya.
Our 660 pound Wicked 66, which we tested on the Kubota M6-141(141 horsepower), is simply ideal for an M Series.
We like ideal, but ideal for one isn't always ideal for another. Choices are great, man and we have plenty to offer. I'm always here to discuss grapple size/weight for anyone/everyone's tractor and intended application(s).
Travis
Our 660 pound Wicked 66, which we tested on the Kubota M6-141(141 horsepower), is simply ideal for an M Series.
We like ideal, but ideal for one isn't always ideal for another. Choices are great, man and we have plenty to offer. I'm always here to discuss grapple size/weight for anyone/everyone's tractor and intended application(s).
Travis
oosik
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I looked at the heavier ET grapples. Then I realized - 1) I don't posses the knowledge to make the instal & 2) no dealership around to help.
Brother - you are not kidding on choice. If a person can't find a grapple to fit their needs - they probably don't really want one.
Yeah - the price was HEAVY but a once in a lifetime purchase. It will last a lifetime too.
You folks have some really nasty root wads back in your neck of the woods. My Ponderosa pines have a whole lot less fine roots on their bases. Many will have exceptionally loooong major roots, rather than the fine ones.
Brother - you are not kidding on choice. If a person can't find a grapple to fit their needs - they probably don't really want one.
Yeah - the price was HEAVY but a once in a lifetime purchase. It will last a lifetime too.
You folks have some really nasty root wads back in your neck of the woods. My Ponderosa pines have a whole lot less fine roots on their bases. Many will have exceptionally loooong major roots, rather than the fine ones.