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Re: Woven/Horse fence unroller.

Wroughtn_harv,
Where have you been buying the V mesh (Diamond mesh?). I'm looking for about 1000' of it. Do you know what heights are available? I remember I used to see no climb horse fence in 52" heights, instead of 48". I'd like to use the 52" height for my pipe fence around my horse pasture, but haven't been able to find it anymore.
 
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In Maryland, Tractor Supply has diamond mesh in both heights, as well as rectangular mesh no-climb, which I find much easier to work with.
I don't know if inventories match nationwide at TSC, but its worth a look on the web and/or a call if you have a TSC handy.
 
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<font color="red"> One of the complaints about V Mesh is it's impossible to make look good when the terrain isn't perfectly flat.
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And close to impossible on flat ground. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I've clamped and tried to stretch 30' to look good, and even spinning all four wheels on the PT 1845, it still has a few kinks and wrinkles. I've gone to 2" x 4" mesh no climb, which stretches nicely, and will still easily outlast me. The next guy can play with diamond mesh if he wants. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Moss road I'd rather be lucky than good. Anyone can be good. That only takes effort. But now luck, not everyone can be lucky. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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Re: Woven/Horse fence unroller.

Good question Bill.

Usually it's not an issue. And generally I'm the one advocating the fence being on the customer's property unless it's a shared cost fence between neighbors.

I've been in between a couple of neighbor tiffs. What's sad is you sometimes find yourself working for the jerk.

Digging up an inch or two of a neighbor's dirt is rarely an issue. Especially if you do like I try to do and do absolutely the minimum damage to the neighbor's property.

But if there is a dispute and the neighbor is a horse's patooty we work around it.

One of them is offset posts. I take my posts and do a double forty five of so many inches. That way the post is just as secure in concrete and we can put the fence within an inch or less of the property line. It also works great in situations like putting a fence on top of a curb etc.

Another technique I've used is to angle the auger so that I actually drill under their property the necessary couple of inches but they can't see it. The post appears to sitting at the edge of the hole and poorly concreted in. When in fact it's got a good footing down where it counts.

On this particular job I had an interesting challenge with the fence line.

Six hundred feet with three power poles on or about the property line. Actually two were on one side and one was on the other. I insisted on the fence line being straight, character flaw, his fence, my reputation, guess who won. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Anyway after shooting my spotter poles I came up with the fence being in a foot at the front and just an inch at the back. Putting all three poles on the inside would have meant putting part of the fence on the neighbor's property, I won't do that without written permission by both parties. Putting the poles outside the fence would have meant giving away almost two feet for six hundred feet. Customer wasn't about to do that. Building the fence between the poles would have left us with a real problem down the road if the power company ever wanted to move or replace said poles.

Contrary to what appears to be obvious, sometimes the hardest part of the job isn't building a fence. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Evening Chris,

I have the old two boards with a steel backbone and a come along.

Iris I use as an anchor most of the time. Ninety nine percent of the time I pull past my end post. This allows me to cut a strand at a time and keep that puppy so tight it'll make you as nervous as a cat trying to cross a dance floor full of dancers learning the tango.

But I've got this idea /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm going to make a device that will work like training grass to go through a goose. No bolts, nuts, or pins, just natural old fashioned tension, I think it'll work.
 
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Evening Gsganzer,

Call over to Mckinney and ask for Doyle at Gebo's Blackland Supply. They're in the book.

A word to the wise, Doyle was the one that inspired "silent waters run deep." He's thriftier with words than a barber with free haircuts.

Your V Mesh comes in a fifty two inch height. Tractor Supply has it, so does Burley Fence down in Burleson.

My fifty eight inch was two hundred and thirty seven a roll for thirteen rolls at Gebo's. Tractor Supply had to special order it and would meet Gebo's price but under duress. They wanted two fifty something with a ten roll minimum. Burley? They started at three oh nine but came down to two eighty eight with me being a contractor and wanting thirteen rolls.

V Mesh comes in ten rod (a hundred and sixty five foot) rolls.
 
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/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Charlie, did you catch that "tension, tie, and dress" phrase I used?

Dressing is working with the wire nice like to get it to do what you want.

That radius in the picture had a couple of tight horizontals and the bottom looked like a skirt someone would wear square dancing.

It takes patience and the understanding that you don't get it all from one spot. But what you do is crimp the horizontal wire just a little each space between verticals.

It's kinda sorta like that thing I showed here where I put a big sweep in that piece of half inch by one and a half inch steel bar, bending it the hard way, with a little jig and a hammer.

A little bit at a time and the next thing you know it's like you knew it could be all the time. Might say it's the Marine DI's perspective. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

When it's done right V Mesh is one of the prettiest fabric fences ever. Done wrong it's down right ugly.
 
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<font color="red"> It takes patience </font>
I think you've hit it.
My lack thereof is why I was delighted when I found rectangular no climb. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( But I've got this idea /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)</font>

Tuesday evening as I was welding into dark time the customer grabbed my idea and gave it's first use. It had two flaws.

One was awkwardness in loading the wire. The second was I hadn't fully considered the loads applied in the area of where the come along attaches.

So yesterday while it was raining I made another one, different idea, but I think it'll work. Today with the wind chill in the twenties and teens we'll see.

I'll take pictures.

If this one works as planned we're looking at zero time to grip the fabric, I mean zero, almost as easy as getting grass through a goose.
 

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