Who rides motorcycles?

   / Who rides motorcycles? #42  
There's no such thing as counter steering.
One other thing to mention in this regard. What do you do in an automobile when it goes into a sideways skid? If you want to recover control, you counter steer.
 
   / Who rides motorcycles? #43  
My latest one.
 

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   / Who rides motorcycles? #44  
You always have to steer in such a manner that the vehicle goes in the direction that you want it to go. Thats just steering. You don't necessarily have to recover control if it wasn't lost. :D

I guess a good way to clarify it is that "counter steering" is a shortening of "counter-intuitive steering". An entire word was dropped. OK now I can live with that :laughing:
 
   / Who rides motorcycles? #45  
1982 BMW R100RT, 1982 Honda CBX, 1986 BMW K100RS, 1999 Husky 360WR, 2007 Husky 510TE, 2005 Harley XL1200R

I know I have pictures, but all computer hate me and I can't find them.
 
   / Who rides motorcycles? #46  
My current ride:
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   / Who rides motorcycles? #47  
Keith Code is a really strange dude (been to three days of CSS courses), but I'm just trolling you since you seem to think it's such a revelation. BTW his handlebar bike to the contrary, I was easily able to initiate turns on my SV650 with hands completely off the bars. That neither proves nor disproves the theory since once you got it wobbling a bit, you could make it go either way. I did it at slow speeds down a hill since if I failed I didn't want to slide too far. At track speeds it's imperceptible, especially on a bike with clip ons.

I can marry the video to GPS data but have never done so. The GPS data shows speed, acceleration, deceleration, and lateral acceleration but not lean angle to my knowledge. Traqmate and others record lean angle.
 
   / Who rides motorcycles? #48  
I (rarely) ride my 1971 Triumph Bonneville. Many bikes are faster; this is plenty fast for a geezer like me.
 
   / Who rides motorcycles? #50  
Keith Code is a really strange dude (been to three days of CSS courses), but I'm just trolling you since you seem to think it's such a revelation. BTW his handlebar bike to the contrary, I was easily able to initiate turns on my SV650 with hands completely off the bars. That neither proves nor disproves the theory since once you got it wobbling a bit, you could make it go either way. I did it at slow speeds down a hill since if I failed I didn't want to slide too far. At track speeds it's imperceptible, especially on a bike with clip ons.

I can marry the video to GPS data but have never done so. The GPS data shows speed, acceleration, deceleration, and lateral acceleration but not lean angle to my knowledge. Traqmate and others record lean angle.

Code's problem is scientology. Grandman, when you take your hands off of the bars, and use your body to change directions, the handlebars push in the opposite direct that the turn. Code's video also demonstrated that as well.

The pace in that video looked slow to my eye. Racing tends to teach that to pitch a bike into a corner as fast and as hard as possible, say through a fast chicane or abrupt bus stop, the rider begins by pushing the bar the opposite direction and then catches it when the bike falls into the corner far enough to balance the speed and the corning forces needed to get around the corner.
 

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