Who uses dual tilt cylinders? I do...

[MtnViewRanch]

I already did explain. Read back, you'll find it.

So you consider having to lower the 3pt hitch to match the cut depth of the right side a good reason to have 2 hydraulic side links? Whatever:confused3: That is not getting a different result than a tractor with a single adjustable side link. Different actions on the operators part, (2 levers instead of 1) but not different results. And besides, even with the twin hyd side links, you most likely would still need to move the 3pt lever, just not as far.

Again, the full tilt of a 2 hydraulic side link machine can basically NEVER be taken advantage of. You are not going to stick a box blade or a rear blade 2' in the ground and make a full cut, it just is not going to happen. That is what I think most people think that they are going to do when they are able to get twice the tilt of a typical system.

We've probably run this into the ground enough.

 

[downsizingnow48]

Landscape loaders such as the Deere 210 series use tilt cylinders on both sides. I am building a set of rear caster wheels now for my box blade and will have tilt on each side independently controlled.

Looking forward to seeing a write-up, sounds interesting and useful.

 

[ovrszd]

Looking forward to seeing a write-up, sounds interesting and useful.

Me too!!!

 

[Jim Timber]

The more you push your bottom links away from the top link, the more angle you induce in the vertical plane of the implement. So to say you'd correct an angular adjustment with one or the other of the tilt cylinders would induce a third, and likely undesirable, change in whatever's being pulled.

Using one or the other would give you more travel than a single cylinder would allow while offering the ability to tilt in both directions. But to say they combine to make compound adjustments easier is outright false, they combine to make adjusting the top link more necessary; thus over complicating things that much more.

 

[farm boy00]

Wouldn't they also help out with height some too. I know for me I've go the problem where my height isn't very good that it would help

 

[ovrszd]

The more you push your bottom links away from the top link, the more angle you induce in the vertical plane of the implement. So to say you'd correct an angular adjustment with one or the other of the tilt cylinders would induce a third, and likely undesirable, change in whatever's being pulled.

Using one or the other would give you more travel than a single cylinder would allow while offering the ability to tilt in both directions. But to say they combine to make compound adjustments easier is outright false, they combine to make adjusting the top link more necessary; thus over complicating things that much more.

Yep. And the response is much quicker and easier to control.

I've not encountered a situation where tilt cylinder adjustment resulted in the necessity to adjust the top link. But Geometrically that is certainly possible.

 

[ovrszd]

Wouldn't they also help out with height some too. I know for me I've go the problem where my height isn't very good that it would help

If you are referring to the ability to lift an attachment higher, yes, if both were retracted you could gain height.

Normally if I'm after attachment height, I hydraulically shorten the top link pulling the rear of the attachment upward.

 

[npalen]

I don't know if this is pertinent to this discussion: Would there be occasions where an operator is wanting to cut a multi pass ditch while keeping both sides of the tractor on level ground? I'm thinking that the blade width would need to be short enough that when angled the ditch produced would be within the tread width. Might allow for a deeper ditch without tractor lean?

 

[jenkinsph]

I am finishing up a job for a horse barn right now and could have used more tilt than the single 4" stroke cylinder would allow. Maybe a longer stroke cylinder would have helped but the tractor is tilting one way and I needed to cut in the opposite direction. Had to get off and adjust the manual screw adjustment many times to get what I needed.

The customer built the barn facing the up slope with pens to be built extending up the slope. When I mentioned that the barn should have been built on the upper side with the pens down hill he seemed to be embarrassed but agreed. To fix his problem I had to tilt the pen area with a down hill .350 slope and run the water around the sides of the pen and barn. Then built a small berm ahead of this on the up hill side to divert the water away from the whole area. Added 6 inches of sand for the horses to stand on and smoothed it out.

 

[kenmac]

3RRL has offered some great box blade instructionals - here's one that shows his dual tilt setup (post #12):
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/99242-boxblade-road-gutter-maintenance-2.html
There is a link to his tilt cylinder install thread in that post, too.

Anyone know what happened to him ?? He use to post some really good projects..I use to enjoy reading them