Why are Kubota FEL's so weak?

[4570Man]

Define "considerably". Because my L3301 has a 5" dia. front axle and it would be hard to believe that a Korean tractor has a "considerably" bigger front axle for the equivalent hp tractor.

My Deere axel is considerably bigger and and a better design than the ring and pinion tractor axels. Never mind the fact that the machine weighs 3 times as much as the tractors. That doesn’t seem to important in this discussion.

 

[atsah]

I have read a lot of posts and seen a lot of images lately of ROPS in the storage position while operating.
Why is that?

I work on flat ground and use the correct amount of ballast, my rops is always down, I haven't felt I have been in any danger in the 40 years of operating equipment.

 

[wagne223]

I work on flat ground and use the correct amount of ballast, my rops is always down, I haven't felt I have been in any danger in the 40 years of operating equipment.

Okay, I guess that makes sense.....
Here in North East Florida, the land is flat, however, because of heavy rains, burrowing animals and most soil being sandy, you cant trust the ground.
It may look safe and solid. Next thing you know your tire is in a hole and tractor is severely leaning.

I have not had a roll over, but I am always sure to keep the bucket low as I have had 3 instances described above.

Here's to 40 more safe tractoring years!

 

[k0ua]

My ROPS is always up. It supports the canopy that keeps the sun off my old bald head.

 

[Ortimber]

Since this thread is already derailed.... Why don't we start another about front axle housing failures? I'd be curious to see how many responses we get.

Happy 4th, be safe.

 

[sd455dan]

Since this thread is already derailed.... Why don't we start another about front axle housing failures? I'd be curious to see how many responses we get.

Happy 4th, be safe.

Post your carnage thread? :laughing: I Like it.

Lets not limit it to Just (housing) failures...




center differential ring and pinion

outer Hub failures,

seals and bearing failures

front engine to diff housing, (mounting fixture) failures

steering linkage failures



, have a Most Excellent Fourth of July Everyone

 

[k0ua]

The Grand L is far superior to the standard L. Not just built a little heavier. I miss my L3240 every time I run the L3800. The most notable differences are a way better 3 point hitch, way better transmission, nicer seat, stronger loader and better steering design on the front axel. There’s a lot more lesser important features too. And I’d pick a Kioti over a standard L.

Yep, you get one heck of a lot more tractor in a Grand L for your money. Little things like telescoping lower links and telescoping sway bars make hooking up SO much nicer. And I did pick a Kioti over a standard L. I have heard people denigrate a Grand L as just "bells and whistle" meaning that the extra things the Grand L offers for extra money are superfluous over a Standard L. They don't know what they are talking about. There are dozens if not hundreds of improvements in a Grand L over a Standard L not the least of which is more weight, and considerably larger axles to go along with their stronger loaders. But companies provide choices and price points to sell tractors. It is up to the individual to decide where they want to fall on that spectrum.

 

[crashz]

4570 - you mentioned earlier that Kubota and JD both build a light light economy tractor with a relatively weak loader for a reason. I think you are on to something there. Its really a great marketing tool and allows for a brand to find something for everyone and compete on many levels. May not be comparable to all other brands or models, but the big ones can find something among their lineup for just about everyone.

My 2501 purchase is exactly based on the things that make an economy tractor "economy". I didn't want a fancy transmission, emissions equipment, and fancy electronics. I want BASIC. And cheap price, I won't lie. I'm not really interested in dropping a lot of cash on my machine for things that I don't need or want. And I also base my purchases on what I can legally and comfortably move with my trailer and truck without getting into CDL territory. Armchair DOT officers need not reply...

I posted a question earlier on the standard L series loaders and most people have argued in favor or not about the the real issue with them. Tractor weight. The tractors don't physically have enough weight and stability to promote a stronger loader. So to the OP, that's the reason Kubota loaders are so "weak". They are matched closely to the tractor they reside on. If you need more lifting power, Kubota makes quite a few sizes. If you need even more, they have a line of small wheel loaders that are pretty nice too.

And if Kubota is not your thing, that's good too. There are many brands out there that are awesome tractors. No hate needed.

 

[BRMyers]

4570 - you mentioned earlier that Kubota and JD both build a light light economy tractor with a relatively weak loader for a reason. I think you are on to something there. Its really a great marketing tool and allows for a brand to find something for everyone and compete on many levels. May not be comparable to all other brands or models, but the big ones can find something among their lineup for just about everyone.

My 2501 purchase is exactly based on the things that make an economy tractor "economy". I didn't want a fancy transmission, emissions equipment, and fancy electronics. I want BASIC. And cheap price, I won't lie. I'm not really interested in dropping a lot of cash on my machine for things that I don't need or want. And I also base my purchases on what I can legally and comfortably move with my trailer and truck without getting into CDL territory. Armchair DOT officers need not reply...

I posted a question earlier on the standard L series loaders and most people have argued in favor or not about the the real issue with them. Tractor weight. The tractors don't physically have enough weight and stability to promote a stronger loader. So to the OP, that's the reason Kubota loaders are so "weak". They are matched closely to the tractor they reside on. If you need more lifting power, Kubota makes quite a few sizes. If you need even more, they have a line of small wheel loaders that are pretty nice too.

And if Kubota is not your thing, that's good too. There are many brands out there that are awesome tractors. No hate needed.

Good reply :drink:

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Most of these other brands people talk about, montana, etc just arent sold in my area. I think there is LS available at a motorsports place.