Why are TYM and Branson so much less??

[ericm979]

There's been conjecture that TYM would get rid of Branson but we won't know until it happens.

I think Branson has a larger market share and name recognition than TYM in the US. It'd be foolish to lose that but I have seen corporations do dumber things.

 

[Btown]

TYM and Branson both came out with 19hp subcompact/riding mowers earlier this year. From pictures and specs they look like they could be the same with different paint and stickers. But the engine is a Yanmar. Could be because Kukje did not make engines that small.

Yes they are identical tractors with just different stickers it appears. The merging has begun, only time will tell how much happens. Maybe they will make the Branson a different line of tractors, just like Mahindra does. Mahindra makes the 35xx series the heavier tractors, TYM makes the now 26xx series and Mitsubishi makes the other series for them.

 

[GirlWhoWantsTractor]

Yes they are identical tractors with just different stickers it appears. The merging has begun, only time will tell how much happens. Maybe they will make the Branson a different line of tractors, just like Mahindra does. Mahindra makes the 35xx series the heavier tractors, TYM makes the now 26xx series and Mitsubishi makes the other series for them.

Agree, with all the merging and buying, just like with appliances it is hard to tell who owns who, and who makes what, and where.

I will only point out that Mahindra is not a wholly owned subsidiary of TYM. They are an independent tractor company that contracts with TYM to make some major components for them.

I think we should stop looking at this as some kind of contest. In the real world, corporations will do what's best for their bottom line. If someone makes John Deere a good enough offer, they will sell to the highest Korean or Japanese or Chinese or Indian bidder, just like any other company.

Enjoy your tractor and stop worrying.

 

[Tennsawdust]

The only thing anyone can be sure of is that things will change over time. That is true for any business. No one would have guessed in 1985 that Oldsmobile - who had the #1 selling car in the U.S. at the time - would be gone within a few years.

I don't see TYM moving too swiftly to consolidate operations with Kukje. For one thing, closing factories in South Korea can lead to violent uprising. The unions there are very strong and very militant when provoked. For another thing, it just isn't the Korean way. Hyundai has owned controlling interest in Kia for many years now. They co-develop chassis and engines and do advanced engineering as a combined force, but when it comes to brands they operate very independently. Kia develops its own vehicles with unique styling and features and markets itself differently than Hyundai. Both companies are encouraged to find their own success. In most cases they maintain separate manufacturing capacity.

I can see TYM doing something similar with Branson. Combining overhead would be a natural expectation. They would have a harder time combining production sites. The Branson is a different tractor and Branson builds a much wider lineup than TYM (TYM takes a Toyota like approach where they limit their lineup to the highest volume models in search of efficiency - no 30 hp model for instance). Slamming those two factories together would be difficult and might limit TYM's growth potential. If you want to sell more tractors it helps to have the capacity to build them... There are also complications like Kukje's contract with McCormick to consider. I'm sure they will combine whatever makes sense, but it doesn't appear that TYM is in any hurry to slash and burn the Kukje/Branson operation. Obviously anything could happen, but Branson has been in the U.S. for 20 years and has some strong dealer relationships and brand awareness that TYM doesn't have yet so they are the stronger of the two brands at this point.

 

[Tennsawdust]

The only thing anyone can be sure of is that things will change over time. That is true for any business. No one would have guessed in 1985 that Oldsmobile - who had the #1 selling car in the U.S. at the time - would be gone within a few years.

I don't see TYM moving too swiftly to consolidate operations with Kukje. For one thing, closing factories in South Korea can lead to violent uprising. The unions there are very strong and very militant when provoked. For another thing, it just isn't the Korean way. Hyundai has owned controlling interest in Kia for many years now. They co-develop chassis and engines and do advanced engineering as a combined force, but when it comes to brands they operate very independently. Kia develops its own vehicles with unique styling and features and markets itself differently than Hyundai. Both companies are encouraged to find their own success. In most cases they maintain separate manufacturing capacity.

I can see TYM doing something similar with Branson. Combining overhead would be a natural expectation. They would have a harder time combining production sites. The Branson is a different tractor and Branson builds a much wider lineup than TYM (TYM takes a Toyota like approach where they limit their lineup to the highest volume models in search of efficiency - no 30 hp model for instance). Slamming those two factories together would be difficult and might limit TYM's growth potential. If you want to sell more tractors it helps to have the capacity to build them... There are also complications like Kukje's contract with McCormick to consider. I'm sure they will combine whatever makes sense, but it doesn't appear that TYM is in any hurry to slash and burn the Kukje/Branson operation. Obviously anything could happen, but Branson has been in the U.S. for 20 years and has some strong dealer relationships and brand awareness that TYM doesn't have yet so they are the stronger of the two brands at this point.

 

[RandyinTN]

The only thing anyone can be sure of is that things will change over time. That is true for any business. No one would have guessed in 1985 that Oldsmobile - who had the #1 selling car in the U.S. at the time - would be gone within a few years.

Gotta ask........which Buick was the #1 selling car in the U.S. in 1985?

 

[sd455dan]

Gotta ask........which Buick was the #1 selling car in the U.S. in 1985?

Buick Century but it was far outsold by the Olds Ciera that year
which counter to Olds selling the most
appears to have been the Chevy Cavalier
as the #1 selling American car in 1985

Back to why TYM and Branson cost so much less

 

[RandyinTN]

I visited our dealer today and looked at the 4720H with FEL and backhoe. Seems like a nice rig, seat is nice, controls fit. Removing the backhoe takes more time than on the Kioti. But doesnt seem like a huge issue to me.
Price is within a few bucks of the comparable Kioti, NX4510H.

Guess it will get down to whoever offers the best out the door price as both dealers are about same distance away.

 

[mark2610d]

Bought a 2009 Branson 3820i in late 2009 after looking at and testing all other major brands, Kubota, MF, Kioti, Deere, NH, Mahindra, available in my area. I got the Branson because of the build and the "Cummins" engine. I have not been disappointed. Use it for grading 1/2 mile gravel drive, moving stone and dirt, hauling logs out the woods, flail mowing and bushhogging, snow removal and about anything else you can think of. No problems or failures other than a broken clutch pedal spring and a tail light that was knocked out in the woods by a limb. The heft of this tractor, along with the quality of the build really make a difference! While all the brands I considered were quality machines, I made the right choice for me. Dealer is about 30 miles away and has great service so that has been another plus.

How many hours have you put on it?