Why is Hydraulic Tilt Useful?

[patrickg]

ernieb, The Crystal City that came to my mind couldn't put up the most logical symbol to represent them. The Crystal City I thought of is very near Wash DC and is populated by a lot of @ssholes.

Patrick

 

[radman]

Glenmac:
My gannon tilt will tip the 3pt in either direction. With the cylinder half extended, the lift arms are about even. You can tell if the implement is level without getting off the tractor. Simply lower the implement (ie boxblade) to near the ground. Adjust tilt to where the blade is parallel to the ground and go about your business. The lift arms are now even.
You also mentioned, the ability to lift your 3pt up high is compromised? I am not sure what you mean. With the tilt installed the lift arms go just as high as when I didn't have tilt capability. I will admit the numer one advantage for tilt is when using a blade/boxblade. Occassionally useful to attach 3pt equipment on unlevel ground and implement is not parallel to lift arms. Tilt allows quick adjustment for hook-up. At times when I need another hydraulic outlet, I will often just unhook the tilt hoses.

 

[glennmac]

Radman, on the compromised 3ph lifting height I was paraphrasing what Bird said about his tilt cylinder. When it was centered, he couldnt lift as high. So he sets the cylinder in the closed position for the hitch to be level--as I understand it. Then, Hayden said that Bird's problem was the result ("artifact") of the kind of cylinder Bird used--too short, I guess. So, I am glad to here that you can get tilt both ways on your 3710 setup. Hitching implements on uneven ground is something no one else has mentioned. That could be very helpful with my Freedom Hitches, too.

 

[Bird]

As far as lifting height is concerned, it's not a big deal; just that you can lift an implement just a little higher if the cylinder is retracted. Just imagine lifting your implement all the way, then try extending that tilt cylinder. That lowers the implement a bit on that side. If you then adjust the other manual link the same amount, you will level the implement (lower that side just a bit).

Bird

 

[ejb]

Re: Top now, Tilt later?

>>Geez! I used to think about girls....

But since you are older and married now, you'll be much better off in the long run if you think about your tractor more and girls less...

 

[RobertN]

Glennmac,
I use TnT all the time since I got mine finished. It is hilly around here, so I am always trying to make a cut where it is easier when the scraper is tipped in comparison to the tractor.

I need a tilt gauge. Before I go out, I do a quick check on my flat driveway. It is easy to check if the implment is level in the field too. When my side link is centered, it is level. I have 4" of side link travel; when 2" of cylinder is exposed, it's pretty darn close to level. It is easy to see from the drivers seat.

The New Holland, I think a TC19, that I saw with two side links. It used one lever, and had the hoses set so it pushed one side down, the other side up, and vica versa.

RobertN in Shingle Springs Calif

 

[RobertN]

I made my fixed side link the same as the hydraulic, when centered. It made the fixed link 1" longer. I have not had an issue where this 1" made a difference. Besides, at least on my B8200, there are various mounting holes on the lower 3pt rails that allow offsets.

RobertN in Shingle Springs Calif

 

[hayden]

I finally got to use my TnT with my grader blade to do a bunch of backfilling and grading and I vote a big YES for the Tilt part of the setup. It made a huge difference is grading out the rough ground I was on. Without it the blade would never have been at the correct angle given the ground and where the tractor was at any time. If you have fundamentally even ground, then I can see it being less important, but for me it was a life saver.

I'm even going to go ahead and replace the fixed link with the adjustable link so I can set it to the midway point of the tilt cylinder stroke to give equal tilt in each direction. Bird's setup where the fixed link is the same length as the cylinder when retracted does make for easy leveling if you are OK with tilt in one direction. For my use I really need both so I'll give the other approach a try to see how it goes.

 

[JRP]

Question: Do bota's smaller than M come with one hydraulic remote valve?

Also, lots of talk about the fixed link. Why would you even consider replacing the adjustable link with the hydraulic tilt? It seems to me that replacing the fixed link would leave the adjustable link available for even more adjustment, although the extra range is manual.

 

[hayden]

The Grand L's are available with 1 to 3 remote valves as options.

On the fixed link, you are correct for all the reasons stated. Birds point is that if the non-hydraulic link (doesn't really matter if it's fixed on manual) is the same length as the hydraulic link when fully retracted, then it's real easy to find the level point for the implement - just retract the hydraulic link.

The only reason I still have my fixed link on is because I've been too lazy to switch over to the adjustable link. When not being able to tilt both ways becomes a problem, I'll switch them.

High techie, reciently founded a startup company and struggling for tractor time.