Why so much titan attachments hate?

   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #61  
Me, too! I'm very happy with my Titan purchase of a manlift.
It's exactly what I ordered.
The fit and finish are exactly what I what I would expect from a manufacturing outlet selling lower cost but still viable & safe equipment.

BTW, I called Travis at ETA and they offered nothing of this nature.
Citing safety issues.
Shrug...Ok, but I wanted to buy American.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #62  
I was looking for a flail mower and came across this. Titan Flail Mower 72" 3 Point PTO Tractor Attachment Heavy Duty Cutting EFGC185. Has anyone tried or heard anything about?
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #63  
Here's the take away. If you purchase something from Titan, do so with the understanding BEFORE you take it out and use it, possibly bending your FEL, make sure it fits the SSQA properly. Why I would hook something to my FEL and not check it out for proper alignment, no matter who made it, is baffling.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #64  
I have a set of thier forks that I built an angle iron frame for and are are rated for 6,500 and I've bent both forks on different occasions. Frame and tractor were fine. Most I've lifted was about 5,000 pounds and nothing got bent on that lift. I thought they seemed a little light when they showed up. I remember thinking they were much narrower than others on other equipment like telehandlers.

This is the model.
48" Pin Type Over The Bucket Backhoe Loader Pallet Forks Tractor Case Deere Hook | eBay
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #65  
I have a set of thier forks that I built an angle iron frame for and are are rated for 6,500 and I've bent both forks on different occasions. Frame and tractor were fine. Most I've lifted was about 5,000 pounds and nothing got bent on that lift. I thought they seemed a little light when they showed up. I remember thinking they were much narrower than others on other equipment like telehandlers.

This is the model.
48" Pin Type Over The Bucket Backhoe Loader Pallet Forks Tractor Case Deere Hook | eBay

If thats the ones you bought, they are rated at 4000lbs per pair..
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #66  
Not sure if I posted on this thread before but I have a Tomohawk 72" Rock bucket with a single lid grapple on it. I paid about 1200.00 for it including the hoses but I had to add the couplings. For the money, I think is was a good value. I'm not 100% sure but I think Titan and Tomohawk are very similar if not the same with a different name.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #67  
For myself, I bought their bolt on BH thumb for my BX25 off amazon. Since I didn't use the BH for several months, I never even took the thumb out of the box until four months later and when I did, it was too wide to snug to the dipper. My own fault for not checking it out when I first got it so until I get someone to weld it on the dipper, it just sits in the corner.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #68  
The thread is old, the issue of quality is still relevant.

I'm very interested the 84 inch high capacity bucket: 84-in High Capacity Skid Steer Bucket

But confused by several things:
The depth/height dimensions of 49 and 40 inches, and struck capacity of 35 cu ft sound great, I want as much depth as possible.
However if I look at other buckets with smaller dimensions claiming greater capacity I am confused. For example, this 2020 HLA bucket at 39" deep and 35" high, a full 10 inches shorter supposedly, claims a struck capacity of 39.4 cu ft.

Then there's the weight and materials. Most of the buckets say they have 3/16 materials steel thickness, and 5/16 end plate thickness. Some have stouter bolt on edges, 3/4 inch thick by some inches deep. These buckets weight in the neighborhood of 715+ pounds. (Again, see the HLA bucket, or others, only Tomahawk uses thinner materials and much less weight in this high capacity arena I'm exploring).

Now back to the Titan Attachments bucket. They don't publish the steel thickness. The edge (not bolt on) is 1/2 inch, which is fine. I'm going to use this thing to haul random yard crap. But I wanted to know the thickness, and ideally other things, since the pictures on the TA bucket don't show any gussets that I can see, or bracing on the bottom, or what have you.

So I spoke with somebody there, they went off for a while to figure it out, and came back to the phone with these answers. He said the materials thickness was 3/8 inch, and the endplates are also 3/8 inch. I double checked, since that sounds very thick! I would expect, given the dimensions and capacity of the bucket, that a 3/8 inch materials steel would weigh twice what a 3/16 materials steel would weigh. However it weighs about the same as the HLA bucket. So something is off. Though the TA bucket has perferated steel at the top, and maybe that isn't 3/8 either.

So at the end of the day, TA claims twice the thickness of steel, substantially larger dimensions, and yet the same weight and less capacity than the similar HLA bucket.
What am I missing? All I can think of to explain these things is the _shape_ of the curve of the bucket, and the perferations for weight control and viewing through part of the bucket.

I've scoured the web for any customer experience with these buckets and haven't found any. Curious as to whether anybody here has experience with the TA high capacity buckets to verify what they've told me.

And of course, SSQA fit is still a concern. Once I take delivery of a 750 pound bucket, it isn't going to leave my property until I sell it or die, I expect.

Any wisdom or experience here with these buckets? I'll be using it on my tractor, LA1065 loader. Figure it's fine, but obviously these are very heavy buckets. My heavy duty regular bucket is only 400-ish pounds.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #69  
The description does say "Not recommended for digging or heavy materials". Also on backorder, but only for a few weeks.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #70  
The description does say "Not recommended for digging or heavy materials". Also on backorder, but only for a few weeks.
Lol, yes, I'm aware of that. I won't be digging or using heavy materials. Truly this capacity is for hauling compost and other things (some snow, some mulch maybe). More expensive than a tarp, less expensive than some carts, particularly if I needed an ATV to pull them (because my tractor own't fit, and I'd have to buy one). This is yard cleanup for old folks with too big a yard who want to do it themselves. However, as a 750 lb bucket, I'd like to know that it is stout against the forces that will be involved using it, that it is well made, and that the information I have on it is correct. What I mostly have are contradictions when compared to other buckets.

My current bucket is only about 9 cubic feet. Even the extra traffic from many small loads is hard on the yard. 35 cubic feet nearly 4 times that.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #71  
Wild guess here but if the guy you talked to grabbed a tape or caliper and went out back to measure one, usually the sheet metal doesn't have an exposed edge to measure. It's either welded to itself in back, or reinforced with thicker bar around the opening. They mighta been measuring the reinforcement thickness instead.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #72  
You do realize that Kubota offers 2 buckets, a light gauge material bucket (usually with a angle broke top edge and an excavation bucket with a round tube top edge and extra stiffeners on the bottom surface plus a tempered cutting edge.). I have both and the excavation bucket is indestructible, in fact, I run a bucket mount hay spear on it all the time and lift and load 1200 pounds rounds and there is no flex what so ever in the bottom sheet at all. I'm surprised that when people buy a new Kubota tractor, dealers never tell them about the bucket option. When I bought my first M9000, my dealer knew what I was going to do with it and suggested the HD bucket option. Glad he did. My second M9 came with the lighter gauge materials bucket and no way would it hold up to what I do. It's fine for materials handling but that is about it. Both of my M's have the SSQA mount (one is an ATI, the other is Kubota) but everything interchanges quite nicely. I think the ATI SSQA is quite a bit heavier than the Kubota one.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #73  
You do realize that Kubota offers 2 buckets, a light gauge material bucket (usually with a angle broke top edge and an excavation bucket with a round tube top edge and extra stiffeners on the bottom surface plus a tempered cutting edge.). I have both and the excavation bucket is indestructible, in fact, I run a bucket mount hay spear on it all the time and lift and load 1200 pounds rounds and there is no flex what so ever in the bottom sheet at all. I'm surprised that when people buy a new Kubota tractor, dealers never tell them about the bucket option. When I bought my first M9000, my dealer knew what I was going to do with it and suggested the HD bucket option. Glad he did. My second M9 came with the lighter gauge materials bucket and no way would it hold up to what I do. It's fine for materials handling but that is about it. Both of my M's have the SSQA mount (one is an ATI, the other is Kubota) but everything interchanges quite nicely. I think the ATI SSQA is quite a bit heavier than the Kubota one.
I have the L2296 Bucket with bolt on edge, I believe it's a heavy duty bucket. I upgraded to it because I knew I'd be doing regular gravel work on my long driveway. I've since also learned the hard way that a heavy duty bucket with bolt on edge, is challenged by frozen gravel piles :)

I've also looked at the Landpride/Kubota LM2584 bucket (https://cdn-assets.greatplainsmfg.com/ari/attach/lp/public/specs/381-192sk.pdf)
But it's a lot more expensive and only 30 cubic feet. Probably the most important dimension to me is the depth, how much surface I can place on the ground, which is where the Titan shines.

I'm not sure if those are the HD and LM buckets you were referring to. I like my HD bucket, though I haven't hung 1200 pounds from its hook yet, but I'm pretty sure it's going to last longer than I will. But 9 cu ft. is _tiny_ for other tasks. I'm already plotting ways I might use the HD bucket as a carryall with an SSQA 3PH adapter when I'm using other attachments on the front, including a new LM bucket.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #74  
most of what they are selling is Chinese imports. As a dealer, your inbox gets PACKED with emails from the factories that build that stuff wanting you to import. We did two containers a few years ago, the quality was really inconsistent. We had 50-60 sets of pallet forks where the SSQA was so far off they all needed reworked. We've not ordered any of that stuff since.
I bought a grapple works great but customer service is absolutely terrible.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #75  
Terrible experience buying from Titan/PalletForks. I ordered a 'kit', consisting of bar, brackets, attaching hardware, shanks, teeth. They broke it into 2 shipments, one of which never arrived. So all I received was the bar. All this company does is make empty promises. There is no corporate number to call to complain; only a foreign call center number where nobody seems to know anything. A month and a half later (and after countless phone calls and e-mails), I STILL could not get the shipment of the rest of my order OR a refund even though they never disputed the fact that the 2nd part of the shipment was returned to them (damaged by and returned to them by FedEx during shipment; never reaching me). I finally opened a dispute with PayPal and my money was refunded. The whole ordeal wasted 1 and a half months' of my time.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #77  
Terrible experience buying from Titan/PalletForks. I ordered a 'kit', consisting of bar, brackets, attaching hardware, shanks, teeth. They broke it into 2 shipments, one of which never arrived. So all I received was the bar. All this company does is make empty promises. There is no corporate number to call to complain; only a foreign call center number where nobody seems to know anything. A month and a half later (and after countless phone calls and e-mails), I STILL could not get the shipment of the rest of my order OR a refund even though they never disputed the fact that the 2nd part of the shipment was returned to them (damaged by and returned to them by FedEx during shipment; never reaching me). I finally opened a dispute with PayPal and my money was refunded. The whole ordeal wasted 1 and a half months' of my time.

I had no trouble reaching a human being at palletforks.com who took time to attempt to answer my questions about a bucket they sell (though I'm pretty sure the answers were incorrect). But certainly I'm wary of their reputation. That said, for the savings in cost I ordered the 84" bucket from them and it's supposed to arrive tomorrow. I'll post a review at some point. I'm hoping that the sloppy SSQA fits are old news and do not reflect current offerings. That was my impression from reading a posts on them that spanned many years.
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #78  
I had issues with their packaging-it is usually taped cardboard for SSQA attachments.
One got roughed up, only paint luckily, and I called them.

They asked if I wanted to ship back for a new one, or they would pay for the paint.
I asked for $5 for a can of paint, and $5 showed up as a refund the next week,
 
   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #79  
I ordered a PTO and 3 point adapter rated at 2400lbs. The first time I used it I was using an 800lb sweeper. I went over a slight bump and the bolts holding the face plate to the main unit pulled the threads out of the main body. The bolts did not shear or break, they pulled the threads out of the unit. Clearly cheap steel (it did come shipped on a metal frame with a Made In China sticker). Titan took their maximum 90 days to review, hoping I would go away, then they denied for misuse. I used it as advertised at 1/3 the rated weight. Total Junk. Their quality has gone down, this is the 4th piece that I got from them, 2 before this were sloppy fit to SSQA. Main plate damaged when it fell under unit
 

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   / Why so much titan attachments hate? #80  
Did the bolts pulling out bend the bracket too?
Either the threads were cut wrong or that metal is way too soft.
how did they say you misused it, seems like you were well within spec.
 

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