yes you are right I have 3 hoses P2/P3 then T2B and T3A ... that makes sense ... yes I have the paper work but wont be able to get my hand on it for week or so I know I dont not have PB on my new valve and what you are saying makes perfect sense it must be it... so my power beyond is already used ? I can't used it since its already used ? my only options is a third function kit ? or changing to a three spool directional valve with a power beyond for the 3 point hitch ?
Actually you have several options.
What power beyond is.....is also called "high pressure carry-over".....so perhaps that is a more accurate description.
Valves on an open center tractor such as yours and most are all in series. So there is only ever ONE power beyond.
So when designing a system with multiple valves.....all the valves have 3 hoses. Pressure in, Power beyond (that goes to the pressure in of the next valve in the series), and a tank return.
The tank return ONLY flows oil when using the valve. So like when raising or lowering the loader.....the oil that is expelled out of the cylinders other port.....returns back through the tank passage and returns to the transmission sump of the tractor rather than being forced through all the downstream valves....
99.9% of all manual valves that I have seen are NOT rated for pressure on the tank port....but 99% of all electric valves I have see ARE rated for pressure.
Since you CANNOT make the 3rd function valve the LAST valve in the system.....because the last valve is the 3PH and usually internal to the tractor and internal passages.....your 3rd function IF you insist on a manual valve MUST be a power beyond capable valve with appropriate PB cartridge/plug.
So basically what you have will NOT work. So starting over.....here are your options:
1. Yes you can get a single 3-spool valve that replaces your existing loader valve and has the 3rd function built in. This is probably the most expensive option
2. You can get a single spool valve as you have already done.....only this time, get one that has power beyond and is tandem center
3. You can get an electric 3rd function valve.....as those dont normally need a PB as mentioned. But you have to supply it 12v through a button or rocker switch added to your joystick
4. You can go the diverter route. A diverter doesnt change any of the 3 hoses connecting your loader valve how it was originally installed. Rather you pick either curl/dump function or the lift/lower function and tie into them. Still need the 12v and a button. But it uses your existing loader valve to control the grapple by diverting one of the functions whenever button is pushed.
And I guess a 5th option would be long hoses going from rear remotes IF your tractor has rear remotes and IF the control for those remotes is ergonomically handy and in close proximity to the loader joystick