why tym tractors loader lift rateings so much better than jd?

[Gale Hawkins]

Then there is the Howard Hughes movie.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I knew friends that had factories in several countries. They drove Buicks, and up here had a 20 square foot kitchen with a bar fridge. But, they didn't owe anyone for anything. And never owned a single STATUS symbol. The people that owe, have resaurant size kitchens that most never use. This ridiculous conspicuous consumption will be the death of our society.

 

[nards444]

I knew friends that had factories in several countries. They drove Buicks, and up here had a 20 square foot kitchen with a bar fridge. But, they didn't owe anyone for anything. And never owned a single STATUS symbol. The people that owe, have resaurant size kitchens that most never use. This ridiculous conspicuous consumption will be the death of our society.

I dont advocate for splurging wildly or being stupid with money. But with that said caskets dont have pockets, no sense in dying just to have somebody else spend the money you earned. Second sucks to have a 4x5 ft kitchen, doesn't seem real.

To be honest not everybody that does alright is frivolous. With that said shaming people with money or down playing it is usually a way for people without money to feel better about their situation

 

[art]

SOME? I bet MOST will lift more than the front axle is rated for.

SR

It is very common with some brands and not done with other brands.

 

[paulfun9]

I have no doubt that like some that have a fake Rolex watch, some have a fake (Kioti) Kubota tractor. lol

Real cute

But since I have also owned kubota and JD and this time picked the Kioti after extensive shopping and will state clearly that I would buy an other without hesitation over the kubota or JD and have had a Much Better owner experience with it than I ever had with the latter it kind of makes your words more silly than cute!

 

[Tennsawdust]

Kubota is one of the only companies that engineer and manufacture the whole tractor top to bottom, including the engine. They are most certainly not assembling parts as you say. Wheels/tires are the only major parts they sub out. They even make their own loaders and buckets.

They build their own tractors, but they outsource some components just like every company in the world. TYM does supply components to a variety of tractor companies including Kubota and John Deere. That is a significant sector of their business. It would be prohibitively expensive for a company to tool up to make every part it uses so there is almost always a make-buy decision on components. That is especially true for tractor manufacturers where volumes may be in low thousands or even a few hundred. That limits the possibility of recovering tooling investments. If someone already has that part tooled up and can supply it for a reasonable price then it is purchased. No shame in it. It is just what has to be done to offer a price competitive product. Kubota controls what rolls off their production line so all that is invisible to the consumer, much the same way you would never know if your Chevy had Toyota parts in it (which it almost assuredly does...)

 

[rScotty]

They build their own tractors, but they outsource some components just like every company in the world.

Some companies manufacture more of their own parts than others - Kubota and Yanmar are two that do a lot of that. Both design and manufacture their own engines, transmissions, and such including some basic castings & machining.
At one time they even did their smelting for castings, but I don't know of they still do.

Something we haven't touched on yet is a company's culture - and how that culture affects the final product. I think that's important.
In my experience, a company that does a lot of their own basic manufacturing has a completely different internal culture than one that mostly assembles parts from other suppliers.
rScotty

 

[Industrial Toys]

I always thought a company like Volkswagon had a culture that I admired. Is anything we believe in, or trust, REAL?

 

[s219]

They build their own tractors, but they outsource some components just like every company in the world.

"Some" = extremely minimal in the case of Kubota, which sets them apart from most other tractor makers. Looking over a Kubota tractor will make this obvious.

 

[Tennsawdust]

"Some" = extremely minimal in the case of Kubota, which sets them apart from most other tractor makers. Looking over a Kubota tractor will make this obvious.

How would you know by looking at it what parts they made in house and what they outsourced? The answer is that it is almost impossible to tell. They may make a part in house, buy someone else's design or contract another company to build their design. All those parts would carry a Kubota part number and their origin would be unknown and irrelevant to the end user. Dana has a plant in China that supplies axles to quite a few of the tractor manufacturers. It is unlikely that the end user would ever know where that axle came from. Manufacturers don't have to tell you where the parts they use came from and they usually don't unless there is some marketing reason to do so (JD and RK touting the use of Yanmar engines, for instance.)

It also varies by model. Kubota's bread and butter models are largely built in house, but others have a lot of buy-out parts (BX for instance) and in the case of some of their largest tractors the entire unit is contract built by another company (such as Vicon). Kubota has also purchased some companies outside of Japan in order to fill their needs. The Kneverland and Great Plains deals would be examples of that. I'll agree that Kubota is among the companies that are more likely to make things in house, but outsourcing some components is just the nature of the business. I'll also wager that with Kubota continuing to grow as it is they will continue to look outside the company where it is needed to satisfy business targets.