Mowing wild hogs

[psient]

Hey guys I've got some comments and a stupid question. I've been perusing this thread and it's fascinating.

I am in Southern California. The people here are pretty out-of-touch. I'm a native so have seen the radical changes in peoples attitudes developing over the many decades I've been a resident. Now days if they can't control your every action by law, most will become informants watching you to make a report. I target practice with a silly little .177 pellet gun on my property (5 acres in Riverside). I have to remain vigilant because it's technically illegal to discharge a pellet gun in my city. I don't think the police would take me to jail but they would have to confiscate my gun (a $300 dollar baretta). Believe it or not in the hills surrounding my area there are constant reports of feral hogs but they aren't considered a reason to arm or protect property. H_ll, you can't even trap rabbits or ground squirrels here and the burgeoning population is insane. These vermin are super destructive and if you have a kitchen garden you must use some kind of row-cover. I just lost a 20 foot row of artichokes to rabbits and I can't do anything about it. As I said, it's illegal to trap the suckers.

My stupid question is:

Can wild hogs get rabies? I am sure they can. Any time I hear about unprovoked attacks by wild animals that are typically unlikely to do so, this thought goes through my head. Anyone ever heard of such a thing?

I'd like to have a buddy that lived in an area with hogs so I could actually enjoy being with a sane person and have the opportunity to go hunting with him/her and get some good done at the same time. I hope all of you with this infestation problem maintain vigilance so the people who write the laws understand they'll be fired at once if they mess with your ability to control what manifestly attacks your property.

ONe other thing, I'm a champion dog breeder (old english mastiffs and patterdale terriers). Riverside has started to succumb to the PITA people and has several times tried to outlaw pet ownership (dogs AND cats). My wife is politically active in this regard along with here posse. If it weren't for their constant monitoring what these lawmakers propose, PITA and ASPCA and the others would have outlawed all animal ownership.

I say this because being involved with gun legislation here is a lost cause. You can write to maintain the status quo but there's no possibility to go back to what it was like in the 1960s when safe shooting was a recreation for every kid and their dad!

Jon

 

[jonyyuma]

Psient, You have my deepest sympathys....Not much is still legal there? Definitely not planning on selling my toys and going to Fantasy land? Really cannot trap a rabbit? Sounds like India to me? Plus,Please keep Peloisi off the TV.

 

[psient]

This is a little off topic but I hope it is taken for what it's worth in the context of hog control.

They're all the same. I don't have a political thought about the lawmakers. My brother once sat in a plane with a senator and asked him what he was going to do with his power. The guy said "Get all I can."

That's ok if you work for it, it doesn't seem to be right when you do it on other's backs. Maybe that was just one person but how do you judge? These people seem to think they were put there to run other peoples lives. You'd have to be insane to think that, especially by legislating good judgment and common sense. No one needs to tell me what to think, I can decide for myself.

I've heard that wild hog makes the best cured ham there is!

 

[nybirdman]

Hey guys I've got some comments and a stupid question. I've been perusing this thread and it's fascinating.

I am in Southern California. The people here are pretty out-of-touch. I'm a native so have seen the radical changes in peoples attitudes developing over the many decades I've been a resident. Now days if they can't control your every action by law, most will become informants watching you to make a report. I target practice with a silly little .177 pellet gun on my property (5 acres in Riverside). I have to remain vigilant because it's technically illegal to discharge a pellet gun in my city. I don't think the police would take me to jail but they would have to confiscate my gun (a $300 dollar baretta). Believe it or not in the hills surrounding my area there are constant reports of feral hogs but they aren't considered a reason to arm or protect property. H_ll, you can't even trap rabbits or ground squirrels here and the burgeoning population is insane. These vermin are super destructive and if you have a kitchen garden you must use some kind of row-cover. I just lost a 20 foot row of artichokes to rabbits and I can't do anything about it. As I said, it's illegal to trap the suckers.

My stupid question is:

Can wild hogs get rabies? I am sure they can. Any time I hear about unprovoked attacks by wild animals that are typically unlikely to do so, this thought goes through my head. Anyone ever heard of such a thing?

I'd like to have a buddy that lived in an area with hogs so I could actually enjoy being with a sane person and have the opportunity to go hunting with him/her and get some good done at the same time. I hope all of you with this infestation problem maintain vigilance so the people who write the laws understand they'll be fired at once if they mess with your ability to control what manifestly attacks your property.

ONe other thing, I'm a champion dog breeder (old english mastiffs and patterdale terriers). Riverside has started to succumb to the PITA people and has several times tried to outlaw pet ownership (dogs AND cats). My wife is politically active in this regard along with here posse. If it weren't for their constant monitoring what these lawmakers propose, PITA and ASPCA and the others would have outlawed all animal ownership.

I say this because being involved with gun legislation here is a lost cause. You can write to maintain the status quo but there's no possibility to go back to what it was like in the 1960s when safe shooting was a recreation for every kid and their dad!

Jon

Any mammal can get rabies.Don't give up on the gun rights!

 

[CurlyDave]

...Don't give up on the gun rights!

It is truly a lost cause in CA.

The best hope is for CA to be forced to comply with Federal legislation. The Supreme Court rulings incorporating the 2A were a great blessing to CA residents.

One of the reasons I moved to Oregon in retirement is the paranoid gun insanity which swept CA.

 

[EddieWalker]

I'm from the SF Bay area and left in 2002. It seemed harder and harder to live a life that I wanted there. I understand your frustration, but from what I hear from friends still living there, it's only going to get worse.

As nybirdman said, any mammal can get rabies. It's a tricky disease that has no cure once it's in your blood stream. Last I heard, there was one girl who had it, was terminal and somehow recovered. Nobody knows how or why, but it wasn't from th medicine she was treated with. When I was stationed at the US Embassy in Yaounde Cameroun, my pet dog bit me and then got sick and died. He had rabies and everyone who had come into contact with him was given the treatment.

I have a pet pig, and my vet gave him rabies shots. I thought it was funny, but she said that it happens. More so with domestic pigs and pets then wild pigs because of their contact with domestic livestock and pets.

Eddie

 

[two_bit_score]

True, any mammal can get rabies. If I was keeping one as a pet it would be getting rabies shots!

With feral hogs it does not seem to be a major factor though.

>>Do feral hogs carry disease?

In general, diseases from wild hogs do not pose a significant threat to humans; however, some diseases can be transmitted to livestock and wildlife. It is important to keep all livestock vaccinated, especially where large feral hog populations are concentrated.

Various diseases of wild hogs include pseudorabies, swine brucellosis, tuberculosis, bubonic plague, tularemia, hog cholera, foot and mouth disease, and anthrax. Internal parasites include kidney worms, stomach worms, round worms and whipworms. Liver flukes and trichinosis are also found in hogs. External parasites include dog ticks, fleas and hog lice.

What is pseudorabies and swine brucellosis?

Pseudorabies, also known as "mad itch" is a swine herpes virus that may affect the respiratory, nervous and reproductive systems. Despite its name, it is not a rabies type disease but derives its name from the symptoms similar to a rabid animal. It is transmitted primarily through breeding but may also to be transmitted through respiratory secretions of the infected animal. Infected adult swine typically develop flu-like symptoms whereas young pigs can have severe respiratory and digestive symptoms and ultimately die. Pseudorabies poses no threat to humans but may be fatal to domestic livestock and pets.

Swine Brucellosis is an infectious, bacterial, reproductive disease that can cause abortion, low conception rates and other problems. It is transmittable to humans, known as undulant fever, and causes flu-like symptoms such as fever, chills, aches and pains. It is treatable with specific antibiotics.<<

TPWD: Feral Hogs

 

[TripleR]

Hey guys I've got some comments and a stupid question. I've been perusing this thread and it's fascinating.

I am in Southern California. The people here are pretty out-of-touch. I'm a native so have seen the radical changes in peoples attitudes developing over the many decades I've been a resident. Now days if they can't control your every action by law, most will become informants watching you to make a report. I target practice with a silly little .177 pellet gun on my property (5 acres in Riverside). I have to remain vigilant because it's technically illegal to discharge a pellet gun in my city. I don't think the police would take me to jail but they would have to confiscate my gun (a $300 dollar baretta). Believe it or not in the hills surrounding my area there are constant reports of feral hogs but they aren't considered a reason to arm or protect property. H_ll, you can't even trap rabbits or ground squirrels here and the burgeoning population is insane. These vermin are super destructive and if you have a kitchen garden you must use some kind of row-cover. I just lost a 20 foot row of artichokes to rabbits and I can't do anything about it. As I said, it's illegal to trap the suckers.

I say this because being involved with gun legislation here is a lost cause. You can write to maintain the status quo but there's no possibility to go back to what it was like in the 1960s when safe shooting was a recreation for every kid and their dad!

Jon

You have my sympathy. My brother took early retirement from his DOD job in the San Fransisco Bay Area after living there 30 years and moved to one of our farms here in Missouri. Another brother lived in Riverside and left quite a few years earlier. His wife's family still lives there, but he couldn't stand living there any more.

One of our Officers got a high paying job in San Diego, but was back looking for his old one in under six months.

My wife has relatives in AZ and reportedly a lot of Californians are moving there.

I guess some people like it there, but I couldn't handle it.

 

[Mad Mac]

Last winter, I killed two one day and two on another day while checking the cattle.

All four were one shot kills except this sow.
She was stopped with one shot, but I walked up
and used a second for a coup de gras.

It took three of us to get this boar into the truck.
He reached from one edge of the tailgate to the other.

A neighbor makes them into sausage patties and gives me some.

I thought this little boar was quite handsome.

The rifle is a 1965 vintage Browning BAR in 30-06 topped with a fixed 4-power scope with a duplex reticle, loaded with home brewed 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullets sitting on Accurate Arms 2520 powder, 2870 feet per second.

The only good feral hog is a dead hog.

Thanks for all the tips, links, videos and pics.

 

[gengine]

"do coyotes eat piglets?"

I'm sure they do, but if you want, you can come up here to Wyoming and take all the wolves you want back with ya. Nobody here would stop ya, not even the game and fish dept. I've seen what they do to the elk, moose and deer populations, I'm sure that the hogs would be hard to find within five years.