Mowing wild hogs

   / wild hogs #131  
You can still get a BAR in California. However, due to the insane pressure during hunting season in this state, it's a project to go on a hunt. I know guys that do deer hunt in the local mountains but have a h_ll of a time getting game. Plus most gunshops have to order them. For instance, even though I live in the L.A. basin, Bass Pro doesn't routinely stock them.

I've been toying with the idea of buying a BAR in .300 wsm (I think that's right). I've been reading comparisons between the .300 wsm and the 30-06. I guess there is a difference at long range but it's also more expensive to reload the .300 wsm. It's also a shouldered round and that makes it a little more complicated. I guess for charging hogs both will do the job; bang you're dead.

I've heard that Northern California has an abundance of feral hogs. However, you aren't free to just go hunting on your own property. The state wants to ensure that you use common sense when discharging a firearm. The solution hit upon by the state congress is to pass a law that you use common sense. You have to notify them and pay a fee. That way you can be subject to state workers coming on your property to check you out.

I know that some states require you to permit your hunting on your own place, yes? I think that in California it's because a coalition of suburbanites testified before the state legislature on the danger of people firing guns no matter what the circumstances. NO disrespect towards suburban commuters; the ones I know who live in tract homes and are deep thinkers about issues that affect. However as a generalization, this group doesn't seem all that qualified to tell me how to behave as a responsible and reasonable adult . . . . if the laws they pass are any index. In my case, when it comes to being considerate of others Mom and Dad took care of that. YOu want to live in a good neighborhood? . . . you have to treat everyone regardless of faith, political notions, race, etc with respect.

And you help them out if they have a hog problem in a way that takes into account their criteria and yours. The only reason I'm here is that I was born here as were my parents. I won't let people who came here from other states force me out. I say that because things started going backwards after silicon valley had it's boom. Prior to that the aerospace and entertainment industries seemed to employ most (including my dad who was an electrical engineer). During that time all of the adults my parents knew had rifles and pistols and knew how to use them. However from 1970 to 1990 that all changed.

I'd really like to go hunting for wild pig so I could cure some hams.

Jon
 
   / wild hogs #133  
"I'd really like to go hunting for wild pig so I could cure some hams."

Jon, you are talking about the legislature, right?:laughing:
 
   / wild hogs #135  
I just shot a hundred pound hog. There was four in the group and I watched them for awhile because I have game camera pics of a giant boar that was hanging out with them a few weeks ago. I haven't seen him in the pics since then, but I was still hoping he was around.

I took a few pics while watching them and as it was getting darker, I shot the one who posed broadside for me. They where all abou the same size and it was only a hundred yard shot.

I posted a pic on facebook right after shooting it, and I had it given away before I got back to my house. He'll be here any minute to pick it up.

Eddie
 

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   / wild hogs #136  
...I've been toying with the idea of buying a BAR in .300 wsm (I think that's right). I've been reading comparisons between the .300 wsm and the 30-06. I guess there is a difference at long range but it's also more expensive to reload the .300 wsm...

The Browning BAR Mark II was the first semi-auto available in magnum cartridges. I don't know the other ones available now, but let me mention one thing. It was great to get doubles on hogs, twice, and I am not sure that I could have done it with a bolt action, but semi-autos are particular about their ammunition.

A reloader for semi-auto has little flexibility. The wrong load can fail to cycle the weapon or beat up the moving parts. By comparison, a strong bolt action rifle will allow you to have light or heavy loads and use everything from high velocity sabot rounds for long range varmint shooting to big heavy slower moving bullets for the largest game in North America. Just a thought.

The .300 WSM is a little flatter shooting and harder hitting than the venerable 30-06, but it is also louder, harder recoiling and slower to get back on target, as well as more expensive to shoot. Everything in life is a compromise and a rifle is definitely one. The 30-06 was the standard for my generation. You youngsters will have your own. Maybe it will be a "black rifle" in .308. Enjoy the choices while you can. You won't go wrong no matter what you do.
 
   / wild hogs #137  
"I'd really like to go hunting for wild pig so I could cure some hams."

Jon, you are talking about the legislature, right?:laughing:

As a matter of fact, I am sure I don't have to. Eventually young folks growing up in poverty will figure out how to critically evaluate what they have to do. I am sure they will become the adults to fire these bad suits. If my generation had had any wits this wouldn't have taken so long. By the way, when I was a teenager skateboards had metal skate wheels and you had to build them yourself. By the time I was in my late teens people had started putting roller rink plastic wheels on them. Also when I was 15 the beach boys were in there late teens.

My generation was the link that took a serious kid wanting to be a working adult put them in a stupid and brutal war so that by contrast there would be a population of idiot hippies. F*&^k Ricahard Nixon. That ham was only worth putting down once.

Oh well, I still want to hunt.

Jon
 
   / wild hogs #138  
My generation was the link that took a serious kid wanting to be a working adult put them in a stupid and brutal war so that by contrast there would be a population of idiot hippies. F*&^k Ricahard Nixon. That ham was only worth putting down once.

While I agree with that statement, I hope your memory of history isn't so poor that you've forgotten who escalated the war to the point it was when Nixon was elected, and that was a major reason the Democrats lost the '68 election. LBJ not only escalated the war, but then cut off bombing and attacks into NV territory and tied our hands. He was responsible for at least 100,000 casualties that could have been avoided. He was by far more hated by the common soldier more than Nixon was. Nixon was considered more of a dangerous imbecile. Johnson was viewed as an evil b@stard. When I was there in '71 Nixon was badly disliked but LBJ was still intensely hated. ;)
 
   / wild hogs #139  
The .300 WSM is a little flatter shooting and harder hitting than the venerable 30-06, but it is also louder, harder recoiling and slower to get back on target, as well as more expensive to shoot. Everything in life is a compromise and a rifle is definitely one. The 30-06 was the standard for my generation. You youngsters will have your own. Maybe it will be a "black rifle" in .308. Enjoy the choices while you can. You won't go wrong no matter what you do.


One other thing to consider is availability of loaded ammo. Most any general store or small gun shop you walk into will have a supply of 30-06, 308, etc. 300 WSM might not be so easy to find if you don't reload your own.

I've got a Model 70 Featherweight in 270 Winchester, and while I haven't had any problems picking up ammo for it, it's not quite as mainstream as the 308 and 30-06. In all truth I was shopping for a 30-06 when I bought the 270, and should have bought a 308 in the first place.

Sean
 
   / wild hogs #140  
...My generation was the link that took a serious kid wanting to be a working adult put them in a stupid and brutal war so that by contrast there would be a population of idiot hippies. F*&^k Ricahard Nixon...

This thread has now gone sideways but as a Vietnam Era veteran I cannot allow the canard above to stand. For the benefit of the youngsters in the audience, here are the facts.

Democrat President Kennedy increased the number of advisers in Viet Nam (it was two words then) to 16,000, deployed the Green Berets, used Agent Orange and orchestrated the assassination of President Diem, proving that what goes around does indeed come around.

Democrat President Johnson had the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution passed by the senate granting his authority for all out war. In March 1969, he had increased the number of U.S. military forces to more than 543,000.

Republican President Nixon began withdrawing troops, bombed North Vietnam into a peace agreement and brought home our soldiers and prisoners of war March 1973. He won the war.

The Democrat controlled congress cut off further funding to South Vietnam in May of 1973 and with the passage of The War Powers Act in November 1973 denied President Nixon the right to provide air and naval support to South Vietnam as we had promised in the peace treaty.

In 1975, North Vietnam conquered South Vietnam and the Cambodian government surrendered to the Khmer Rouge. The Democrats gave away southeast asia, wasting the sacrifices of 50,000 U.S. dead. So if you want to F*&^k somebody, F*&^k the Democrats.
 

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