will someone please describe lugging?

[Soundguy]

Many of my frineds are engineers.. but that makes little difference.. if you look at people in general.. ya got the chest beaters in every sector of the population.. IE. there are plenty of doctors, lawyers, engineers.. etc.. that like to talk at a sufficiently high level of context so as to baffle a significant portion of the population. Mind you.. there are times for this.. high technical context communication between members of a target audience expecting or needing this high level of communication to get a project done is quite acceptable.. perhaps even neccescary. If I'm laying on a table with my chest split open... I want the people standing over me in masks to have that good 10$ vocabulary.

If we got guys trapped on a faulty russian space station... I want our boys in mission controll to also have some good 10$ vocabulary shooting back and forth on the com telling them how to fix the 'hammer and sickle' made computers..

If I'm explaining dodgeball to my wifes 3rd graders.. I can leave out the big words...

It's all a matter of application and target audience...

I got my ticket to.. and If I have to pump out pages of text to tell someone to catch a lower gear if they need to... well.. I might be trying to make up for something...

soundguy

Being an engineer, I have to hear this sort of bovine rectum effluent engineer bashing all of the time. Typically, I am tolerant of this, but tonight I am in a fiesty mood.

I personally don't even try to explain a concept to someone that takes more than two paragraphs. Ever. If someone can't understand a concept in two paragraphs, they don't have the background to understand the terms, much less the concept, and the communication is futile.

The people who write pages upon pages, and waste hours of my time explaining multilayered, conspiracy explanations of the simplest concepts, are almost always engineer wannabees. They can't understand the simple explanations, so they make up complex convoluted solutions. They turn engineering(and science) into a religion, in which concepts must be professed and believed, not understood.

Hence, the science about the contribution of bovine rectum effluent to global warming. Oops, I meant to say religion.

Is that simple enough for ya?

Chris

P.S. I read TBN a lot, and haven't seen much of the described behavior here. Almost all of the advice is good, in context, and the differences and "errors" are mostly a matter of opinion. This note is about engineer bashing, not TBN and its great contribution to my limited understanding of my tractor.

 

[MadDogDriver]

You guys are cracking me up!!

The great thing about TBN is you learn something (about the subject and/or the author) everytime you spend enough time reading through various threads.

I personally like the posts that have the ability to simplify complicated subjects rather than complicating relatively simple subjects.

Generally, the simplified posts correctly answer the questions asked, however, there can be some caveats to those simple answers that usually get jumped on quickly. While many TBNers may not have sheep skins declaring their achievement of post graduate degrees, I'm confident that they do speak with authority from their own experiences.

So (with apologies to all who have already enjoyed this joke many years ago) here's to those who can explain whether **** is exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat) like this guy did, ProSoundWeb | ****: Exothermic or Endothermic? Joke.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Providing a definition of gibberish is making fun of it? Interesting thought process. Oh, I never said I didn't understand it. Plus I didn't even post in this thread until you arrogantly said Chris' post was 'far too simplistic'. Instead of letting his and your posts stand or fall on their own merit you had to call his post 'far too simplistic'. Not wrong, just 'far too simplistic'. I guess engineering hubris works for you.

Its too simplistic when it leads someone to do something they dont need to do to achieve the goal. The instruction was too broad in scope.
I dont find your claim of understanding to be credible.
Perhaps you should do a little homework. By rereading the thread, and some references.
Or you can just muster the weapons of ignorance - make some more fun, belittle, exaggerate, etc. Go for it.
larry

 

[Bird]

I think this thread has served its purpose and answered the original question, but now it's going a direction it should not go, so I believe it's time to close it.