Will this work?

oldafretired · Sep 17, 2016

Is it OK to use a front and rear blade together at the same time? An angled front blade tends to push the front of the tractor sideways so I was thinking of getting a rear blade and use it at an angle to counteract that.

Citydude · Sep 17, 2016

Sounds logical however probably would be labor intensive for the right hand keeping material distribution even to balance things out. Looking backwards and forwards at the same time. Only thing to do next is try it!

4570Man · Sep 17, 2016

How is the rear blade going to catch any snow? I don't foresee it being very effective at countering the forces of the front blade. The front blade has much more leverage.

Citydude · Sep 17, 2016

I assumed he had a side shift rear blade.

bcp · Sep 17, 2016

Is this you?

Bruce

motownbrowne · Sep 17, 2016

If you angle them to both push snow off the same side, it'll just push your tractor sideways the other way. If you angle them differently, then it'll spin your tractor. Just my guess. I think you'd need some very aggressive chains to accomplish anything.

oldafretired · Sep 17, 2016

Yeah, thinking about it more, it would probably just push both the front and back sideways. Oh well. Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this.

KenB2920 · Sep 17, 2016

I run two blades.

The rear blade swings way out to give me more width when moving snow. It snow is really deep or heavy it still has the potential to move the tractor so smaller swipes should be taken.

The best thing I did for keeping the tractors tires from sliding was siping them with a Groover. I did my last tractor and current tractor R4 tires. Easy and cheap for a huge boost in traction on asphalt. No real difference on dirt or gravel.

Citydude · Sep 17, 2016

bcp said:
Is this you?

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Bruce

Close, I have brown eyes.

GregbkH · Sep 17, 2016

I think it would work great. I have a rear blade like KenB above that offsets 30" on either side. I would think that the opposing forces would about cancel each other out.

oldafretired · Sep 17, 2016

Maybe I'll just get a rear blade and find out.

If it doesn't help much with keeping the tractor going straight, what can the rear blade do with snow that the front blade can't?

CADplans · Sep 17, 2016

Doesn't it depend on the size of the tractor whether it will be pushed sideways??

I do just fine with a bucket,, and blade,,,

motownbrowne · Sep 17, 2016

CADplans said:
Doesn't it depend on the size of the tractor whether it will be pushed sideways??

I do just fine with a bucket,, and blade,,,

I love seeing pics of that 584! What a nice machine.

You're right though. It depends on the size of the tractor. Or more accurately, the size of the tractor, the size of the blade(s), the weight of the snow, the amount of traction the tractor can achieve on the various surfaces, etc.

KenB2920 · Sep 17, 2016

oldafretired said:
Maybe I'll just get a rear blade and find out. If it doesn't help much with keeping the tractor going straight, what can the rear blade do with snow that the front blade can't?

Basically nothing overall. But on the other hand a lot!

Backing to a garage door vs trying to back drag with a front blade

My front blade is 90" so when it's angles i can't clear a shoulder the way I can with an offer back blade.

Front blade trips but the rear blade may break through some necessary frozen zone ..

Just a few things

oosik · Sep 18, 2016

When I had my Ford 1700 I used the FEL bucket - modified - plus the rear blade for snow. The modified FEL bucket was simply a 2x12 angled across the bucket. It worked fine until the snow would get too deep and then I would loose traction.

devildog1 · Sep 18, 2016

Sometimes I use both the front blade nd the rear blade, but sometimes I use the front blade along with a 3 point snow blower. It all depends on the amount and the consistency of the snow storm.
DevilDog

oldafretired · Sep 18, 2016

I think I'm going to go ahead and order a rear blade from EA. Would skid shoes on a rear blade be of any use on gravel? I use them on my front blade. I wonder if they will put skid shoes on it if requested?

CADplans · Sep 18, 2016

oldafretired said:
I think I'm going to go ahead and order a rear blade from EA. Would skid shoes on a rear blade be of any use on gravel? I use them on my front blade. I wonder if they will put skid shoes on it if requested?

I have pretty big skid shoes for a JD 6' blade,,, they are pretty useless on gravel,,,
they just carve ruts.
With gravel,,, you need tires.

KenB2920 · Sep 18, 2016

oldafretired said:
I think I'm going to go ahead and order a rear blade from EA. Would skid shoes on a rear blade be of any use on gravel? I use them on my front blade. I wonder if they will put skid shoes on it if requested?

I've never used gauge wheels but they seem like they would be the answer until the ground freezes. When the ground is frozen just go to town. May be some gravel to clean up at the end of the season which is fairly easy

nybirdman · Sep 19, 2016

I use both,not always at the same time.Rear is nice for pulling away from garage doors ect.My tractor is heavy enough that I can run both a the same time if not too deep.Rear blade will scrape right down to the pavement.
I have upgraded since this picture to a 7ft.medium duty rear blade;8ft.Curtis on the front.