Winter oil

[dmccarty]

Sorry typeo on my part. Should have been $110/5 gallon bucket.

Went to the JD dealer yesterday to pick up fluids, filters, this and that for the F350 and JD4700.

The 0w40 Torq-Guard synthetic in a 5 gallon bucket was $112. Joe said he made a mistake on the price he qouted me it should have been 120-130ish.

The oil filters for the truck where $9.25. When I get them from the regular part store, well, when they have them in stock, they are a bit over $10.

Roughly half of what I bought was for the F350. The other half was for the tractor. Kinda strange buying fluids and filters for the Ford from JD....

Later,
Dan

 

[RWEST]

J-D's oils should certainly work well in their engines. At the very least, there shouldn't be any warranty issues!!

There seems to be quite a discrepancy in pricing of the J-D fluids around the country, or maybe it's just from dealer to dealer? I remember another thread in here lately where another gentleman was paying just about as much per quart of Low-Vis HyGard as I paid for a GALLON!!

Just got off the phone with my local J-D guy - the 0w-40 is just under $100.00/5 gal. But, he said in January they'll have a 12% OFF sale on lubes, and filters too. Hope I get lotsa' J-D gift cards for Christmas!

A scientific survey by no means, all I can say is what I've seen with mine (J-D 955) and my brothers' tractors (they both have J-D 755's) when we switched from 15-40 (Delvac in theirs, J-D in mine) to Rotella "T" 5w-40. Noticeably easier starting in cold (below 30 degrees F) weather, and, of course it could just be wishful thinking on my part, but, throttle response seemed much improved. Yeah, probably psychosematic.

Unfortunately, the new "low ZDDP" iterations are starting to worry me, and, since "T" 5w-40 is also rated for over-the-road diesels, will newer formulations cause cam wear problems? I think I'll switch everything over to J-D 0w-40 when my stock of 'old' "T" is gone. J-D's oils aren't rated, at least I don't see a rating anywhere on the jugs, for anything on-road, so, hopefully they'll keep the ZDDP content up. Everybody says I worry too much.

 

[RalphVa]

I use Mobil 1 5w30 in my 4010 (Yanmar) year round. If I could get 0w30, I'd use it year round. 5w30 is what the manual specs for it. 0w30 would be even better.

Ralph

 

[Z-Michigan]

Unfortunately, the new "low ZDDP" iterations are starting to worry me, and, since "T" 5w-40 is also rated for over-the-road diesels, will newer formulations cause cam wear problems? I think I'll switch everything over to J-D 0w-40 when my stock of 'old' "T" is gone. J-D's oils aren't rated, at least I don't see a rating anywhere on the jugs, for anything on-road, so, hopefully they'll keep the ZDDP content up. Everybody says I worry too much.

I'm keeping a good supply of CI-4+ rated Rotella-T on hand. I figure CJ oil will ultimately be fine, but I don't feel like buying the first year's production given the uncertainty, and none of my diesels have DPF's.

 

[DieselPower]

There's no uncertainty about CJ-4, it's far superior to CI-4/CI-4+. It's the largest leap in oil quality and standards in diesel engine oil ever.

 

[RWEST]

There's no uncertainty about CJ-4, it's far superior to CI-4/CI-4+. It's the largest leap in oil quality and standards in diesel engine oil ever.

D.P. - I hate to keep pounding on ol' Dobbin, but is there any hard data to back that up? It hasn't been around long enough to generate a database of wear issues, if there are any, has it?

I just want to make sure I'm not being too Chicken-Little'ish running around stocking up on all the CG/CI rated lube I can find in preparation for the oil "Y2K" (I still have a corner of the basement stocked with MRE's from THAT one ), if the CJ-4 will work with my flat-tappet stuff.

BTW - Thanks for your continued sharing of lube-related info. I've learned a lot since joining this forum.

 

[Z-Michigan]

There's no uncertainty about CJ-4, it's far superior to CI-4/CI-4+. It's the largest leap in oil quality and standards in diesel engine oil ever.

Well I'm glad to hear that. I respect and appreciate your advice on these forums. My concern was partly from reading Shell's data sheet on CJ-4 15W-40 indicating that oil change intervals must be shortened if non-ULSD fuel is used. I don't seek out non-ULSD, but it is still sold in my area and may end up in the tank of our truck or tractor (neither has a DPF and the truck is 2006 M). Any thoughts on this? I'm pasting some info below copied right from Shell's data sheet - most worrisome to me is the statement that it is suitable "where fuel sulfur levels are below 500ppm". I'm not likely to find any fuel above 500ppm, but this caution had me worried.

• Heavy-duty diesel engines in all types of over-the-road service, including the latest emission controlled engines with EGR and diesel particulate filters using Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel fuel (<15 ppm sulfur) (ULSD) and Low Sulfur Diesel (LSD).
• Suitable for diesel powered equipment including those powered by Caterpillar, Cummins, John Deere, Detroit Diesel, Mack, Mercedes-Benz, International, and Volvo engines in all types of service where fuel sulfur levels are below 500 ppm.
• Off-highway applications where a premium quality engine oil is desired, such as construction, mining, logging and agricultural service where fuel sulfur levels are below 500 ppm.
• Hard working diesel and gasoline engines,engines used in pick-up trucks, sport-utility vehicles (SUVs), and mini-vans.
• Suitable for use as a top-off oil in virtually all diesel engine applications.
• Always follow the engine manufacturers’ recommendations for motor oil performance, viscosity grade and oil change interval as these may vary depending on ambient temperature, fuel sulfur composition (LSD or ULSD) and vehicle model year.