Wireless routers cascaded, Ethernet in / Wifi out

[California]

I'd be almost as worried about that spider as the wiring. You got brown recluse there? :laughing:

No.

But Black Widows are common. Shiny black so this isn't one.

 

[California]

It works! :cool2:

I installed two independent Ethernet over Powerline sender/receiver sets in series and get 90% speed at the far end - two buildings away.


Speedtest results observed on cell phone:

13.36 Mbps - phone near principal router in house.

13.45 Mbps - in house with principal router cabled with Cat5 jumper to EoP sender, EoP sender & receiver in same outlet, EoP receiver cabled to drive an old D-Link Wifi router set up to broadcast what comes in its LAN port. (using static IP, DHCP off).

13.3 ~ 13.4 Mbps - EoP receiver moved to barn 100 ft away, plugged in next to barn's sub-panel, receiver driving the same wifi broadcast as above.

Then: (see photo below) Output from the EoP receiver in barn, used as source to feed a second EoP link that originates here in the barn. Each sender/receiver set was sync'd separately so the second link is independent and originates from its Cat5 input, it doesn't listen to the house for its source.

11.8 ~12.3 Mbps - The second EoP link's receiver was moved another 50 ft beyond the barn and into the cabin. It is driving the same D-Link wifi broadcast as above.

Result: wifi service in the cabin fed from this chain of EoP links, is 90% as fast as the signal in the house 150 ft away. This is an improvement over prior, where an EoP receiver tested in the cabin had failed to link to its own EoP sender in the house.

I couldn't find anyone who had combined separate EoP links in series. Amazon's seller of these sets responded to my inquiry with 'don't know'.

Also I've seen 'signal won't cross a breaker'. This signal crosses several breakers to get from the house wiring, to an outlet in the barn, to a circuit in the cabin; the signal crosses breakers at each building's panel. Surge suppressors in customer power strips likely have more effect on signal.

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[MossRoad]

Nice! Way to sleuth it out! :thumbsup:

 

[LittleBill21]

It works! :cool2:

I installed two independent Ethernet over Powerline sender/receiver sets in series and get 90% speed at the far end - two buildings away.


Speedtest results observed on cell phone:

13.36 Mbps - phone held near principal router in house.

13.45 Mbps - in house with principal router cabled with Cat5 jumper to EoP sender, EoP sender & receiver in same outlet, EoP receiver cabled to drive an old D-Link Wifi router set up to broadcast what comes in its LAN port. (using static IP, DHCP off).

13.3 ~ 13.4 Mbps - EoP receiver moved to barn 100 ft away, plugged in next to barn's sub-panel, receiver driving the same wifi broadcast as above.

Then: (see photo below) Output from the EoP receiver in barn, used as source to feed a second EoP link that originates here in the barn. Each sender/receiver set was sync'd separately so the second link is independent and originates from its Cat5 input, it doesn't listen to the house for its source.

11.8 ~12.3 Mbps - The second EoP link's receiver was moved another 50 ft beyond the barn and into the cabin. It is driving the same D-Link wifi broadcast as above.

Result: wifi service in the cabin fed from this chain of EoP links, is 90% as fast as the signal in the house 150 ft away. This is an improvement over prior, where an EoP receiver tested in the cabin had failed to link to its own EoP sender in the house.

I couldn't find anyone who had combined separate EoP links in series. Amazon's seller of these sets responded to my inquiry with 'don't know'.

Also I've seen 'signal won't cross a breaker'. In my case the signal has to be crossing a breaker because the electric service going from the barn's panel out to the cabin starts at breakers in the barn's sub-panel. The signal also crosses breakers when it arrives at the cabin's sub-sub entrance panel. Breakers don't seem to be a barrier. I suspect surge suppressors, maybe in customer power strips, have more effect on signal.

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it will cross breakers, it won't cross phases, or surge protectors or transformers im told. so if you stay on the same 120v phase it will work. mine has crossed 3 breakers.

 

[Soundguy]

So is the barn sub oaneled off the cabin, and cabin sub paneled from the house?

 

[California]

So is the barn sub paneled off the cabin, and cabin sub paneled from the house?

Similar.

Service Entrance at the house. 100A220V cable from the house out to the barn's sub-panel. Then starting from the barn sub-panel there's a 30A220V cable out to the cabin's sub-sub panel.

Breakers at each end of these primary cables, plus the usual distribution breakers in the panels.

The link 1 to link 2 connection in the photo is in the barn, so its midway to the cabin.

 

[Soundguy]

Ok, cool.

 

[California]

Another note, if someone is watching my trial & error to decide if they might do similar:

The 5 volt wall transformer for the router at the destination of the EoL link, makes interference affecting the EoL receiver.

I've been carrying around a little D-Link router attached to the destination end of my trial EoL links. This broadcasts wifi to my phone where I observe Speedtest and Netgear's WiFi Analytics.

Isolating the router's transformer from the EoL receiver, putting the transformer at a distance using an extension cord from the outlet powering the EoL receiver, improves reliability of the EoL receiver.

This is another reason to not plug EoL devices into a power strip.