Wiring house & shop
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No creek crossing, drive is dirt/gravel. There may be some concrete around the house at some point, but shouldn't affect this. Septic, garden and all water lines will be behind the house away from the power. Unless of course when I get more trees pulled out and the septic guy says the drain field will have to be in front of the house.
Even then, the power will come from the side and should be away from the septic.I'm not DIY'ing it.
An electrician will do this work. I'm just trying to do my homework and find options so that IF there are options available to me, one guy at the power company doesn't just come in and say "we need a 30' lane to everywhere you want power" and they start cutting trees down. With the house being near the front of my property, I'd like to maintain as much privacy as possible and I would like to avoid that deal where the power company sees fit to come onto my property any time they please to whack down everything in sight and spray whatever chemicals they like to keep that lane open. I see that AS an option and maybe the cheapest/easiest option, but I certainly don't see it as the best option. I *am* ignorant of power installation and I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the less the power company is "all over" my property the better is how I see it.
I'm figuring that out. I'm just slow.
See, that's why I'm asking! LOL I've read many threads here and I'm trying to pick up what I can from the more "learned" crowd. If the power company says "this is how we do it and that's all you're getting" well not much I can do about that. If the guy comes out, there are multiple options and we can have a conversation about what will happen, maybe I can save some money or get a better install than if I go in straight up ignorant. Also a neighbor is planning (if that's still on) to build a house right on the side of my 300' entrance road. They won't use my road into their property, they'll have a different entrance, but it's possible the Util will pick up an additional customer. They could run poles down my drive to feed both properties and then go underground once they get into my property. If they'll pick up TWO paying customers maybe they'll be more flexible as to our options.
I appreciate everyone's comments. This work will be done by an electrician (except for manual labor like trenching and the like if that's the way we go) and I agree, we will not be cutting corners or skimping on it. We'll cut back on what type of flooring we put in the house, what kind of faucets we pick or whatever, I will not skimp on infrastructure. One other thing I forgot to add was, we may be on "county water" also. If so, they'll be running a trench all the way down that 300' entrance road at a minimum. We can possibly drop power conduit in that trench along with the water line, I'm not sure yet. We're at the very end of a rural road that has 7 or 8 houses on it. The last 2 houses complain about their water pressure all the time. She tells me that if one is using water, the other has no pressure and the county's been out there to look at it and can't figure it out. When I ask her questions about it, things just don't add up, so I'm thinking I can get it resolved. So...... I may have delivery issues with my water as well, so this is why I'm trying to do my research.
thepumpguysc
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When I had the power co out to give me an estimate..it was 4500.00 for a 100 yard run.. which included the poles {3-4}, the wire & "facing" all the pine trees.. about 75 of'm.. & they stopped at the building.. it was up to me to get power from the pole INTO my shop.. {electrician}
prichard
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See, I read a lot of threads like this and got very concerned about cost to get power to my new house build. Current house is about 200' from transformer and new house is another 600' away.
I called the coop and asked if they could come look and give me some options. One of their engineers came out and expressed the same concerns I had about sourcing from existing location. I pointed out where a neighbor had a transformer and suggested we use that as primary. He told me to ask neighbor if they had an issue with going through his property and digging it up. He was fine with it.
Well the next day the engineer talked with his underground crew they said they'd bore it and not tear up neighbors land or treeline separating us. He went and talked to the neighbor himself and within a week there was a brand new transformer on my property.
My cost - $0
I called the coop and asked if they could come look and give me some options. One of their engineers came out and expressed the same concerns I had about sourcing from existing location. I pointed out where a neighbor had a transformer and suggested we use that as primary. He told me to ask neighbor if they had an issue with going through his property and digging it up. He was fine with it.
Well the next day the engineer talked with his underground crew they said they'd bore it and not tear up neighbors land or treeline separating us. He went and talked to the neighbor himself and within a week there was a brand new transformer on my property.
My cost - $0
GSVette
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I appreciate everyone's comments. This work will be done by an electrician (except for manual labor like trenching and the like if that's the way we go) and I agree, we will not be cutting corners or skimping on it. We'll cut back on what type of flooring we put in the house, what kind of faucets we pick or whatever, I will not skimp on infrastructure. One other thing I forgot to add was, we may be on "county water" also. If so, they'll be running a trench all the way down that 300' entrance road at a minimum. We can possibly drop power conduit in that trench along with the water line, I'm not sure yet. We're at the very end of a rural road that has 7 or 8 houses on it. The last 2 houses complain about their water pressure all the time. She tells me that if one is using water, the other has no pressure and the county's been out there to look at it and can't figure it out. When I ask her questions about it, things just don't add up, so I'm thinking I can get it resolved. So...... I may have delivery issues with my water as well, so this is why I'm trying to do my research.
Just to add a bit of clarification to my earlier post- where I am at ( near Spokane, WA.) the power cooperative ( in this case Inland Power) has to do the service installation from the 7200v junction to the transformer, to the meter base and setting the meter-no one else is allowed. I paid for the wire, transformer, transformer pad, meter) but Inland Power is responsible for the equipment up to the meter-after that it is my responsibility
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My power company won't share the trench if they bury it.
I guess you could if it's on your dime. Personally I wouldn't.
Your water pressure issue greatly concerns me. Especially the part about the water district not understanding why there's a problem.
There's two separate issues that need clarification, low pressure and/or low flow.
I'd first be curious what the static pressure is at the neighbor's house. That can easily be determined by plumbing a cheap pressure gauge to a hydrant bib. Attach to the hydrant and turn it on. I'd be very concerned if the pressure is below 30psi.
At low static pressure the issue of flow becomes serious quickly. Multiple flow requires at the same time will have miserable consequences.
I'm guessing your neighborhood has developed by adding houses over a few year span? If so the primary water service line is probably too small. Fixing that will probably require consolidated complaining by all of you. Might even require a trip to a board meeting with pictures and video.
For my build a new line was buried. It runs 1/2 mile from the large main. It serves me and one neighbor. The main is 6". The new line is 3". I have to use a pressure regulator set on 55psi. I have no flow issues. Neither us or the neighbor ever know when the other is using water.
I guess you could if it's on your dime. Personally I wouldn't.
Your water pressure issue greatly concerns me. Especially the part about the water district not understanding why there's a problem.
There's two separate issues that need clarification, low pressure and/or low flow.
I'd first be curious what the static pressure is at the neighbor's house. That can easily be determined by plumbing a cheap pressure gauge to a hydrant bib. Attach to the hydrant and turn it on. I'd be very concerned if the pressure is below 30psi.
At low static pressure the issue of flow becomes serious quickly. Multiple flow requires at the same time will have miserable consequences.
I'm guessing your neighborhood has developed by adding houses over a few year span? If so the primary water service line is probably too small. Fixing that will probably require consolidated complaining by all of you. Might even require a trip to a board meeting with pictures and video.
For my build a new line was buried. It runs 1/2 mile from the large main. It serves me and one neighbor. The main is 6". The new line is 3". I have to use a pressure regulator set on 55psi. I have no flow issues. Neither us or the neighbor ever know when the other is using water.
Diggin It
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Every one is different. Ours won't trench at all. If you want underground, you contract it out and pay for it. Once done, they'll connect everything and install the transformer and meter at the house. If you want overhead, they'll go to the first pole, something like 100 feet, maybe more. Beyond that, they charge extra.
