Wiring to shed from house question
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Yep... it seems impossible to believe but true...
I went with 10-3 UF and called it a day... (Thinking ahead for extra capacity ;-)
Seen some crazy things in property management...
One was tenant hooking up Gas Dryer and uses a hose bib and washing machine water hose for the connection... from the hose bib to the dryer gas inlet.
Another was a tenant having her 5 year old pressing/holding the reset button and the GFCI because it was the only way the curling iron would work...
As a matter of course I cap all unused gas lines and document with picture in rental agreement... also document the temp of the hot water because I have had tenants claimed they were scalded and then find someone turned the heater to the max...
Best yet was a medical/injury claim when a tenant got hit in the eye by a flying shower head... wanted me to pay... the tenant's boyfriend changed the shower head... thankfully I had a picture at move in showing my shower head...
Sorry to get so far off topic... just remember overhead wire to the garage is far from fool proof as it can double for a clothes line.
I went with 10-3 UF and called it a day... (Thinking ahead for extra capacity ;-)
Seen some crazy things in property management...
One was tenant hooking up Gas Dryer and uses a hose bib and washing machine water hose for the connection... from the hose bib to the dryer gas inlet.
Another was a tenant having her 5 year old pressing/holding the reset button and the GFCI because it was the only way the curling iron would work...
As a matter of course I cap all unused gas lines and document with picture in rental agreement... also document the temp of the hot water because I have had tenants claimed they were scalded and then find someone turned the heater to the max...
Best yet was a medical/injury claim when a tenant got hit in the eye by a flying shower head... wanted me to pay... the tenant's boyfriend changed the shower head... thankfully I had a picture at move in showing my shower head...
Sorry to get so far off topic... just remember overhead wire to the garage is far from fool proof as it can double for a clothes line.
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Way out in the sticks at my grandpa's farm, the 4 bay garage was fed by 2 bare wires running about 8 foot in the air. When we would have a cook out, grandpa had made up several lights with about a foot of wire attached to the base with a nice hook in each end. He would reach up and hang those lights so we could sit outside a little later.
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5 years ago, I upgraded to a 320 amp service (technically a 400 amp service). Instead of having to change everything out at the house, my buddy who works for the local coop, and sets up these projects, suggested making the new shop the place to set a new meter up, and split from there. Our coop will furnish an upgraded transformer, and entry cable up to 150', to the new meter base.
Being I needed to bring 200 amp service to the shop, no matter what I did, it was more economical to just run 200 amp service back to the house, from the shop. That sure beat changing out the panel in the house, plus all the connections, which go to the old shop, new wood shop, and a small storage building, with a welder hook up.
I have a 200 amp panel in the shop, which I put a 100 amp main beaker in, to run a feed to the new horse barn, which has multiple lights, outlets, heated water drinking fountain, and can still add a welder plug in the trailer storage someday, if wanted, with no strain on the setup.
Plus I put in a huge manual transfer switch, where I can hook up the generator, and feed everything, in case of an extended power outage, and do it from the shop, instead of a quick connect at the house, and have to park the tractor & generator in the yard.
Being I needed to bring 200 amp service to the shop, no matter what I did, it was more economical to just run 200 amp service back to the house, from the shop. That sure beat changing out the panel in the house, plus all the connections, which go to the old shop, new wood shop, and a small storage building, with a welder hook up.
I have a 200 amp panel in the shop, which I put a 100 amp main beaker in, to run a feed to the new horse barn, which has multiple lights, outlets, heated water drinking fountain, and can still add a welder plug in the trailer storage someday, if wanted, with no strain on the setup.
Plus I put in a huge manual transfer switch, where I can hook up the generator, and feed everything, in case of an extended power outage, and do it from the shop, instead of a quick connect at the house, and have to park the tractor & generator in the yard.
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My electrical run, garage-to-residence is about 250 or so. I'm getting bids on the electric right now. I asked my electrician today of the cost difference to set a 200a panel instead of a 100a panel at the garage. Answer was $2,000.
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That seems really, really excessive. As in, you might want a 2nd opinion excessive.
A 100amp panel at Lowes is under $100. A 200amp is under $150. The installation process is exactly the same, so there should be NO labor difference. The only thing I can think of that would be different is the cost of the feed wire, and I can't see it being 4X the cost.
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I know the wire is expensive, but don't have any exact figures. One electrician told me copper prices increased 30% in the last year. One electrician wants to pull aluminum wire, another says "I only use copper." I am receiving bids now and I'll see if I can pin down more exact figures. btw it is unanimous among four electricians that 100a in the garage is plenty .... but I still want to know the cost difference so I can decide.
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I use aluminum urd. Cost for 2-2-4 (100a) cost me $0.85/ft.
4/0-4/0-2/0 (200a) cost be $1.70/ft.
Don't recall weather you need 4-wire or not. But running a separate ground wire, or buying 4-conductor shouldn't be a huge difference.
But in either case, you are looking at maybe a $200-$300 difference in wire.
You quote of $2000 difference.....you are getting screwed.
4/0-4/0-2/0 (200a) cost be $1.70/ft.
Don't recall weather you need 4-wire or not. But running a separate ground wire, or buying 4-conductor shouldn't be a huge difference.
But in either case, you are looking at maybe a $200-$300 difference in wire.
You quote of $2000 difference.....you are getting screwed.
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Don't sugar coat it like that.... :laughing:
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So why not move the meter to the pole/transformer and use the existing wire to run the house. You end up with one meter and a shorter run to the shop. In rural Alberta most yards are set up with the meter on the transformer pole.