Wix vs WixXP oil filter

[Copperhead]

I don't think so. For bypass filter media, yes it would get down that low. But for full flow oil filters, the micron ratings are usually 15 microns or higher. Else you do not get a fast enough oil flow to properly get oil throughout the motor. A bypass filter, which only taps off a small portion of oil at a time, does filter down to the sub 5 micron range. But in the time that 100% of the oil can get thru the full flow filter, only about 10% can get thru a bypass filter.

The first filter in the OP showed a micron rating of 21. That is very similar to most cellulose media full flow filters. The second filter did not show micron rating, but just basing it on the synthetic media it has, my guess would be around 15. The Donaldson filters I use, the cellulose variety is 21 and the synthetic media one is 15 micron.

 

[Texasmark]

Well I went and looked and did not see the micron filtration of the two filters?

I too thought that the premium filters filtered down 5 microns or so smaller.

To get into that range you have to go to "bypass filtration" which usually only samples about 10% of the total flow due to the pressure drop across the media that would occur if "full flow" were attempted which is the rating for most single filtration element engines. HD OTR trucks and other similar equipment that require long change intervals use this system. I had it on my 800 cu. in., 400 hp, big cam Cummins.

 

[Texasmark]

Well I went and looked and did not see the micron filtration of the two filters?

I too thought that the premium filters filtered down 5 microns or so smaller.

If you pull up the Wix filter cross reference www you get lots of info including pressure relief pressure if it has a valve (some filters don't) and flow rate.

 

[clemsonfor]

To get into that range you have to go to "bypass filtration" which usually only samples about 10% of the total flow due to the pressure drop across the media that would occur if "full flow" were attempted which is the rating for most single filtration element engines. HD OTR trucks and other similar equipment that require long change intervals use this system. I had it on my 800 cu. in., 400 hp, big cam Cummins.

what i meant i think is not that the filter filtered to 5 microns but that the filter was 5 microns lower than the standard filter. For example if the standard wix filter was 21 microns that the premium filter would be labled to 16 microns.

Sorry i know i did not write that as clear as it should be, 5 microns is SMALL!

 

[WilliamBos]

Just go to Car Quest and give them your tractor filter number. They will give you a Baldwin filter that is every bit as good a Wix, if not better.

 

[clemsonfor]

carquest filters are made by wix?

 

[LD1]

Been running a fram filter on my tractor since new 10 years ago.

Not all frams are created equal. I agree, a standard fram (PH precedes the number) is a low end filter.

I use nothing but XG filters. Every bit as good as a wix XP. Synthetic media, etc.
Only place I found that has a selection large enough to do all my stuff is Walmart. (I actually narrowed everything down to 3 filters. XG8a for the wifes truck and my tractor, XG7317 for the wifes nissan and my kawasaki prairie 700, and a XG3614 for my saturn and my kohler/scag. Nice that walmart also has the lowest prices usually on either the mobil or Valvoline 0w30 (and 0w20 for the hemi). So I can have the wife get everything I need when she is in town. Cannot remember when the last time was I had to make a trip to get oil or filters.

Cummins truck gets a big donaldson, and backhoe dont have spin on filter. those I usually just order online

 

[WilliamBos]

carquest filters are made by wix?

No, Baldwin, since Advance Auto bought Car Quest, they are supplied by Baldwin. No more rebranded Wix.

Ive got one here for our MF, its Baldwin.

 

[WilliamBos]

Been running a fram filter on my tractor since new 10 years ago.

Not all frams are created equal. I agree, a standard fram (PH precedes the number) is a low end filter.

I use nothing but XG filters. Every bit as good as a wix XP. Synthetic media, etc.
Only place I found that has a selection large enough to do all my stuff is Walmart. (I actually narrowed everything down to 3 filters. XG8a for the wifes truck and my tractor, XG7317 for the wifes nissan and my kawasaki prairie 700, and a XG3614 for my saturn and my kohler/scag. Nice that walmart also has the lowest prices usually on either the mobil or Valvoline 0w30 (and 0w20 for the hemi). So I can have the wife get everything I need when she is in town. Cannot remember when the last time was I had to make a trip to get oil or filters.

Cummins truck gets a big donaldson, and backhoe dont have spin on filter. those I usually just order online

I have an excellent UOA (2011 GMC) from Blackstone using a Fram Ultra. They can be used with confidence.

 

[Clipse3GT]

I had Fram oil filter (Original Orange variety) fail on my wife's car (then girlfriends) about 9 years ago. It was on a Toyota Yaris 1.5L 4 cylinder engine running Mobil 1 5w-30 and Fram filter that her dad did the oil change. The oil filter literally blew off the engine, low oil pressure light came on, she drove to work for another 5 miles. Called me to let me know some light is on. Obviously, when I knew it was oil pressure told her not to run the car. I came her work did a oil change and put on a Mobil 1 filter. I am pretty sure it was the oil pressure relief valve that failed and caused the filter to shoot off the engine. I think the saving grace for the engine was the Mobil 1 oil in the car at the time. It had 25k miles when it happened. We still own the car as a winter beater and it has 125k miles now and still runs the Mobil 1 filter and oil for it's entire life. Shocked that it did not spin a rod bearing... but I am a firm believer in M1 products from that point on.