wood oil based stain/preservatives?

[AWSubie]

Just checked Consumer Reports and they say the best for the following:

Solid (opaque) stain: Behr Premium
Semi-Transparent : Olympic Elite Advanced
Clear Sealer: Thompsons or Behr Premium (Tied)

 

[ArlyA]

I'm not an advocate of Consumer Reports.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

And the Behr stains are the worst that I have ever used!

 

[ArlyA]

I had a gallon of the Thomson made wood preservative here and used it for years. It was their best variety and oil based and it was OK on general items I was building. It ran out so I got another gallon a week ago and couldn't find any oil based Thomson at my favorite HW store. The can wouldn't say what it was based on but when I got home and used it, it was water.

 

[bvanek]

I'm not an advocate of Consumer Reports.

30 years back when things were made in America and Japan, Consumer reports was pretty good. They had good testing and maybe they still do, but now most everything made is brokered to the lowest bidder(outsourced)........ and testing a new product that might only last until the warranty runs out is not what most people are looking for.....Reliability is what people want and Consumer reports no longer provides that on most consumer material goods. They have no idea from one product to the next as to where the components come from and to that notion they become advocates and can only give out results that could be fine on the surface but lack just about everything else.
I have two old refrigerators on my back covered deck that are 53 (Sears Coldspot) and 49 (Kenmore) years old. They are still doing what they are supposed to do...keeping things cold.

Environmentalist regulations are making things worse and the same goes for oil based paints and stains.

I finally gave up on Consumer reports about 20 years ago when the products they recommended were not viewed too favorably by the consumers in the comment section. It kinda spelled out like this; What good is a fancy modernized appliance that claims efficiency and a host of other superlatives if it doesn't run. I think coming into a forum like this will give you better insight on what to purchase.....experience with a product is a valuable tool.

add; one other experience; I had a Kenmore (but essentially a Whirlpool) dishwasher new in 2001. It had electronic components to run and the main console went belly up in a year and a half. The component was made in China and the replacement was made in Mexico......so how do you get accountability for brokered electronic components? The second one went bad after 8 months. It took me 4 more months to find one with a mechanical rotary dial. It was a no frills Amana that was still made in the US......So It has worked for twenty+years without a hitch....and above all it washes the dishes nice and clean. Hope it makes it because these basic products are almost non-existent these days.

 

[Richard001]

30 years back when things were made in America and Japan, Consumer reports was pretty good. They had good testing and maybe they still do, but now most everything made is brokered to the lowest bidder(outsourced)........ and testing a new product that might only last until the warranty runs out is not what most people are looking for.....Reliability is what people want and Consumer reports no longer provides that on most consumer material goods. They have no idea from one product to the next as to where the components come from and to that notion they become advocates and can only give out results that could be fine on the surface but lack just about everything else.
I have two old refrigerators on my back covered deck that are 53 (Sears Coldspot) and 49 (Kenmore) years old. They are still doing what they are supposed to do...keeping things cold.

Environmentalist regulations are making things worse and the same goes for oil based paints and stains.

I finally gave up on Consumer reports about 20 years ago when the products they recommended were not viewed too favorably by the consumers in the comment section. It kinda spelled out like this; What good is a fancy modernized appliance that claims efficiency and a host of other superlatives if it doesn't run. I think coming into a forum like this will give you better insight on what to purchase.....experience with a product is a valuable tool.

add; one other experience; I had a Kenmore (but essentially a Whirlpool) dishwasher new in 2001. It had electronic components to run and the main console went belly up in a year and a half. The component was made in China and the replacement was made in Mexico......so how do you get accountability for brokered electronic components? The second one went bad after 8 months. It took me 4 more months to find one with a mechanical rotary dial. It was a no frills Amana that was still made in the US......So It has worked for twenty+years without a hitch....and above all it washes the dishes nice and clean. Hope it makes it because these basic products are almost non-existent these days.

I also have a 49 year old Sears side-by-side refrigerator that is still going strong. I did have to replace the defrost timer and a ice cube maker temp sensor. Other than that, it's been great.

Also have a 45 year old Sears whole house A/C that I have had never had to have serviced.

A few years ago, I did have to buy a new furnace. The old one was only 46 years old. When the installers got done, I ask if this new one will last over 40 years like my original one, they just shrugged their shoulders.

Bvanek is correct, things are not made to last anymore.

Richard

 

[ArlyA]

Let keep this thread about the quality of paints and stains.

 

[Tinhack]

30 years back when things were made in America and Japan

60 years back, toys made in Japan were made from old tin cans. Some of the product printing was still on the inside. We tried to avoid them at the hobby shop and drug store. Yeah, drug store. The local one sold everything. Things change, times change.

 

[ArlyA]

Keeping this thread about the quality of paints and stains. Here is the water based wolman product I was complaining about. This was given to use to use but the can on the left, was more like paint, than semitransparent stain. Maybe color was added to it??

 

[big bubba]

my experience is that unless you have quality grain wood, etc, solid pigment stain is hands down my choice for uv/weather protection, not semi transparent. in your case, sounds like you want a treatment conditioner rather than stain?

at the the end of day, whether oil or water based, lower end quality products will cost you more, good luck finding what you want...as a caveat, when i used Olympic oil based solid stain for several decades before switching to water based, Olympic oil based directions specifically stated not to use on horizontal deck surfaces. i did anyway with mixed results.

seems to me, regardless of oil or water based, when you have extended pooling on horizontal surfaces, you will eventually have problems. so build it right in the 1st place i guess, cheers