Would you buy a gas tractor

[LouNY]

Many people grew up on smaller gas tractors. While I am a big believer in diesel tractors I could consider a gasser.
There has been talk here that gassers don't have the low rpm torque, that is a simple matter of the cam and block to rod design,
look at the torque peak of a Farmall 400 or an M or H, 12-1400 rpm, right where it was needed. A new gasser with computerized fuel injection
and ignition designed and built for low rpm torque would be an interesting critter, that being said comparing old gas to new diesel is a farce.
Then add in the new diesel with the electronic common rail and computers to older mechanical diesel is also a whole new ball game.
My main concern with a new gasser would be fuel storage for extended terms, i can keep diesel around for quite a time and not have it go stale,
which gas does, new injected motors can run some stale gas with no apparent problems.
When comparing new gas and diesels they both have some much complexity and amazing performance, My 3.0 liter Dodge diesel with 420 pounds of torque and 16-1800 rpm
drives out like my big blocks of 30 years ago, the new gas motor make outrageous HP at (to me) ridiculous rpm's, my 4.7 Dodge had to be twisted up to run well and above 3500 rpm
she did just that pulled out and ran, (at 213,000 miles I gave it to my youngest daughter and she's still driving it) I just never got to the point where i liked to twist it that high.
It will be interesting to see what the next 20 years bring us in engines.

 

[arto98607]

I would not want to store 200 gallons of gasoline in my barn!

:shhh:

 

[MoArk Willy]

I would not want to store 200 gallons of gasoline in my barn!

:shhh:

AGREED. And no matter what the advantages perceived by gas over diesel, diesels are still nearly 50% more efficient under similar circumstances.

 

[LouNY]

I would not want to store 200 gallons of gasoline in my barn!

:shhh:

Nore I, I also wouldn't keep 200 gallons of #2 there either my fuel tanks are 50 feet away, one with #2 and one with blended.
A gas more will start smoother and easier in sub-zero weather, that is a big advantage and the cost should be quite a bit less for the same quality.
But that said I personally prefer diesel.

 

[Oldpath05]

Diesel race car a little farther back in time.

Company History: Indianapolis 5 | Cummins Inc.

David

Interesting read, didn't know diesel racing went back to 1911. Fair to say Clessie Cummins was a mechanical genius, wonder why nothing was mention about him putting Cummings diesel in tractors, maybe they never did.

 

[Oldpath05]

Many people grew up on smaller gas tractors. While I am a big believer in diesel tractors I could consider a gasser.
There has been talk here that gassers don't have the low rpm torque, that is a simple matter of the cam and block to rod design,
look at the torque peak of a Farmall 400 or an M or H, 12-1400 rpm, right where it was needed. A new gasser with computerized fuel injection
and ignition designed and built for low rpm torque would be an interesting critter, that being said comparing old gas to new diesel is a farce.
Then add in the new diesel with the electronic common rail and computers to older mechanical diesel is also a whole new ball game.
My main concern with a new gasser would be fuel storage for extended terms, i can keep diesel around for quite a time and not have it go stale,
which gas does, new injected motors can run some stale gas with no apparent problems.
When comparing new gas and diesels they both have some much complexity and amazing performance, My 3.0 liter Dodge diesel with 420 pounds of torque and 16-1800 rpm
drives out like my big blocks of 30 years ago, the new gas motor make outrageous HP at (to me) ridiculous rpm's, my 4.7 Dodge had to be twisted up to run well and above 3500 rpm
she did just that pulled out and ran, (at 213,000 miles I gave it to my youngest daughter and she's still driving it) I just never got to the point where i liked to twist it that high.
It will be interesting to see what the next 20 years bring us in engines.

I'll be long gone but you that are still here will most likely be arguing/discussing or discussing debating about hydrogen power tractors vs battery powered tractors, and our great great great grandkids 200 years from now will be arguing over dilithium warp power tractor engines vs atomic power tractors, and they'll look at back at my post saying yup that Oldpath was right, gas is best.............:stirthepot:

 

[LouNY]

I'll be long gone but you that are still here will most likely be arguing/discussing or discussing debating about hydrogen power tractors vs battery powered tractors, and our great great great grandkids 200 years from now will be arguing over dilithium warp power tractor engines vs atomic power tractors, and they'll look at back at my post saying yup that Oldpath was right, gas is best.............:stirthepot:

:drink::tractor::scratchchin::scratchchin::thumbsup::laughing:

 

[SDT]

Why aren't there any race cars with diesel motors.............

The Cummins Diesel Special sat on the pole at Indianapolis in 1952, setting a track record and 4 lap average record in the process. She led the race for some time but, sadly, the turbocharger air inlets drew air from beneath the car and became clogged with rubber and other track debris forcing the car to withdraw before race end. She is officially listed as finishing 27th.

SDT

 

[SDT]

Interesting read, didn't know diesel racing went back to 1911. Fair to say Clessie Cummins was a mechanical genius, wonder why nothing was mention about him putting Cummings diesel in tractors, maybe they never did.

Cummins diesel engines have been installed as OEM engines in farm tractors but such applications have been relatively uncommon. It's not a market that they have prioritized.

SDT

 

[LouNY]

Cummins diesel engines have been installed as OEM engines in farm tractors but such applications have been relatively uncommon. It's not a market that they have prioritized.

SDT

Except for Whites, Case, and IH