Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor that IMO should be concrete

[Industrial Toys]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

I guess it depends on what resources you or your buddy have at your disposal. Me, I don't have cement smarts, but access to steel, so I would try and support it.

 

[Citydude]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Why fill the void in if he wants a wood deck?

 

[4570Man]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Metal detector? If you knew the floor was solid, you could just put in patio stones for footing and short jack posts.

The best way I see about going about it would be to put to pour 4 piers under it and then put 4 jacks under it for temporary support. Then tear out all the wood joist and get 2 I beams. One across each side with a jack under all 4 corners. Then jacking it up using air powered bottle jacks to minimize the danger. Then put 4 permanent post under the beams. That’s still a lot of work under a sketchy slab and if it slips or breaks up you’re dead. I really don’t feel comfortable with the plan. And the guy wants a wood floor not concrete. That was the point of the whole thread.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Why, so he can replace it in five years or deal with some other issue in perpetuity? (that's a word, isn't it?) This new computer has no spell checking at all!

Yeah, so the way you described, you would do it is pretty much what I would do. I think, any danger can be mitigated.

 

[dnw64]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Stressed concrete slab will eliminate the need for fill. You can put anything you want on top - stamped concrete, actual stone/tile, etc. It will last near forever and will never "rot".

 

[Morning Wood]

Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be conc

Rip it all out. Repair the brick on the house. Rep our a reinforced concrete slab supported correctly or frame a deck with PT and be done with it. I don’t see any reason or way to save that abortion. Who are you going to get to go under it and add proper supports. It’s too fing dangerous.

How tall is that crawl space? And how much of it is above grade or below grade for that matter? I’m thinking get rid of all the brick and just go with a wood deck. Not really sure about the grade though. Do you have a pic from way back that gets the whole thing with grade?

 

[4570Man]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Why, so he can replace it in five years or deal with some other issue in perpetuity? (that's a word, isn't it?) This new computer has no spell checking at all!

I agree. Although it’s a covered porch that he intends to inclose. So if all the moisture issues got fixed and he closed it in it would probably be fine. I seriously doubt he’ll ever finish enclosing it and I doubt he’ll fix the water problem. I think the better plan is to either have him pay me to do the whole project or let me concentrate it or walk away. I’m not a big fan of doing work that without a lot of other work will fail.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Our house and patio is coreslab. Flagstone on the patio, but it leaks into the fruit cella from snow melt! Also a nighmare since they never figured a thermal break was required to the outside brick walls!

 

[XSKIER]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Although I can't tell for sure by the pictures, it appears as though the brick vernier wall is supported by the concrete on the failed wood. If there was a brick ledge on that foundation block wall, you may have to underpin the brick down to it. How's your masonry skills?

 

[4570Man]

Re: Would you touch this with a 10 foot pole? Wood floor in a job that IMO should be

Rip it all out. Repair the brick on the house. Rep our a reinforced concrete slab supported correctly or frame a deck with PT and be done with it. I don’t see any reason or way to save that abortion. Who are you going to get to go under it and add proper supports. It’s too fing dangerous.

How tall is that crawl space? And how much of it is above grade or below grade for that matter? I’m thinking get rid of all the brick and just go with a wood deck. Not really sure about the grade though. Do you have a pic from way back that gets the whole thing with grade?

I’m not hiring anyone to get under it. If I decided it’s to dangerous for me to do than I’m not doing it. I figured 6 feet height for the 40 yard figure. It’s really probably between 4-5 feet. I don’t have a picture of the drainage but I’m pretty limited in what can be done because a septic tank and fill lines are in my way.