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darkday said:
There's 4wd then there's "true" 4wd. Now on some machines including (but not limited to) your RTV you have a 4wd system which does NOT include a means to lock both front wheel. What you are left with are 2 wheels which can always get power (the back ones) and 2 wheels which under normal conditions get power (the front ones). Now when one of the front wheels meets resistance of any sort all of the power is diverted from that wheel and sent to the one with little resistance. If say you are climbing a steep hill and hit a slick patch or are just barely able to keep traction, once traction on one wheel is lost (in the front) it will spin and the other will have 0 power. On things like the new HPX's and the XUV you have a locking front differential which will lock itself once slipage occurs.
Thank you.coobie
 
   / Wow! 12mths no payment, no intrest #12  
i really wouldn't worry about the true 4 wheel drive the 04 hpx does just fine in the swamp i don't think you will come up against any cattle crossings with blocks to climb over on the other end sure it's a nice feature but it's really not a mandatory thing.
 
   / Wow! 12mths no payment, no intrest #13  
The only people that don't care about true 4 wheel drive are the ones that are stuck with 3 wheel drive!
It's a No brainer 4 is better than 3, 3 is better than 2 and so on~! :rolleyes:
TOMMYHPX4X4 said:
i really wouldn't worry about the true 4 wheel drive the 04 hpx does just fine in the swamp i don't think you will come up against any cattle crossings with blocks to climb over on the other end sure it's a nice feature but it's really not a mandatory thing.
 
   / Wow! 12mths no payment, no intrest #14  
i will strongly disagree with you on that one . what do you mean struck with 3 wheel drive??? there is not anyone in this house that is stuck with three wheel drive. 3 wheels gets me through just as much as 4 wheels does. it's all in the driving skills. if you know how to drive in the mud you don't need all 4 wheels turning .when i get stuck i'll let you know and believe me when i get stuck that extra wheel turning wouldn't have done me no good at all. i been riding in the swamps on atv. and 4x4's all my life and i know my hpx like the back of my hand and you have been saying the hpx can't go over stuff cause the low ground clearnance well i never got hung up i drug the rearend over plenty of trees and ruts but i never got stuck i just find it funny how when people upgrade they tend to talk like the old one is no good but if you go back and read thier post they wrote about them when they had one they was praising them. if you need 4 wheels pulling to ride in the mud then by all means have at it but after a while and a few years of practice in the mud you will notice that hey i really don't need to engage the 4x4 system most times so two wheels are really good enough.but then agian if you would get some real good mud tires (589's)you probably won't get stuck iether.


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   / Wow! 12mths no payment, no intrest #15  
3 wheels gets me through just as much as 4 wheels does

For the most part I agree with your post aside from this part. All else being equal the 4wd machine will be that last on to get stuck. Now what would I rather have, my 4wd machine with worn out 489s or yours with 3wd and newish 589s ? Yours, easily, at least for mud/offroading.
 
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i agree with you too but it has alot to do with how you drive a machine too. you can take a 4wheel drive hpx and put a rinky dink driver in it and he ain't goin no wheres . but then again you can take a 3 wheel drive hpx and put a expreince mud rider in it and he can go through alot.i seen some guys that can't drive for nuthin on 4x4 4 wheelers and just plow the thing into the mud and never go any further then come a 2 wheel drive timber wolf and pulls them out and rides through thir ruts. never say a a true 4x4 will out do a 4x4 it might just come back to bite ya.
 
   / Wow! 12mths no payment, no intrest #17  
Tommy I have the upmost respect for your opinion.
I ride in more than just mud and I may not be as good of a driver as you but I do fairly well for an old man.

My 1st gator was an 05 hpx and it did well, but I was limited in the areas I good venture easily because of the 3 wheel traction.
I traded to the 06 which had 4 wheel traction and I immediately could go to more areas with ease.
My only problem with the 06 was the low diff, hard starting and the rough ride.
So I traded the 06 for the xuv and now I can go anywhere I'm brave enough to attempt.

I'm speaking from experience. I've owned both and compared them. If you had a 4 wheel drive to compare, this debate would not be happening.
I don't understand why it is so hard to comprehend. It is simple logic~!



TOMMYHPX4X4 said:
i agree with you too but it has alot to do with how you drive a machine too. you can take a 4wheel drive hpx and put a rinky dink driver in it and he ain't goin no wheres . but then again you can take a 3 wheel drive hpx and put a expreince mud rider in it and he can go through alot.i seen some guys that can't drive for nuthin on 4x4 4 wheelers and just plow the thing into the mud and never go any further then come a 2 wheel drive timber wolf and pulls them out and rides through thir ruts. never say a a true 4x4 will out do a 4x4 it might just come back to bite ya.
 
   / Wow! 12mths no payment, no intrest #18  
here i am pulling out a true 4 wheel drive utv. he got stuck in my ruts. i have driven rhino's and polari's and i still rather my hpx.as you can see the rut i dug was way deeper than the 6"that my rear diderfential hanges down thats because if i get into the ruts the right way the low diferentail never even makes a diference. but it sure stopped that rhno (with true 4 wheel drive)
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   / Wow! 12mths no payment, no intrest #19  
Tommy you can convince yourself, you will never convince me.
I know for a fact. 4 wheel drive is better than 3 with equal drivers.

It seems ridiculous to argue about this, it is common since.

Also comparing a rhino with stock tires to a gator with 589's is not a fair comparison.
The gator out weighs a rhino by 300#s. I agree the gators do well in mud. I never said they didn't.
My point is that the same vehicle (or similar) will do better with 4 wheels pulling opposed to 3.
My lawn tractor can out pull a rhino with stock tires.

Compare apples to apples. Hook an xuv to your hpx and see who gets pulled!

LOL my son said the rhino is pulling the hpx backwards. :)

Bottom line; if you believe 3 wheel drive is as good as 4 you are wrong~!
 
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TOMMYHPX4X4 said:
here i am pulling out a true 4 wheel drive utv. he got stuck in my ruts. i have driven rhino's and polari's and i still rather my hpx.as you can see the rut i dug was way deeper than the 6"that my rear diderfential hanges down thats because if i get into the ruts the right way the low diferentail never even makes a diference. but it sure stopped that rhno (with true 4 wheel drive)
If your diderfential hanges down to low, you best have it checked~!. :p
 

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