X595

[megotatractor]

top speed for the 2210 is 8.5mph according to specs. The two speed transaxle offers a low range for heavy duty ground breaking work. I find the low range useful to maintain a steady ground speed while mowing up and down slopes where braking would be required downhill in high range, or for extra slow and controlled roto tilling.

 

[JDFANATIC]

Strong hydraulics means gpm of the pump. I can't find any listings for the X, but I know when I cycled a loader on one it was pretty slow.

2010 = 5.5 gpm
4010 = 5.7 gpm
4110/4115 = 7.4 gpm
4210 = 12.3 gpm

Its all about flow.

 

[Dutch445]

The X595 has total flow of 6.2 gpm, but only 1000 psi is the biggest drawback... (vs. 1987 psi on the 2210).

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[DJLX]

<The X595 has total flow of 6.2 gpm, but only 1000 psi is the biggest drawback... (vs. 1987 psi on the 2210).>
That's why I have been investigating ways to increase the pressure for the FEL. Either increasing with shims on the pressure relief or seperate hydrualics for the FEL.

 

[powerstroke6ltr]

Wow...lotta useful infor here! That's for sure...Gotta chose now....the 2210 is probably cheaper then the 595...hmmmmm

 

[RalphVa]

My JD 4010 was $300 less than a 2210.

Ralph

 

[Dutch445]

PowerStroke,
I reviewed some of the posts... and noticed your original post was regarding a quote on the X series. In that quote you had a collection system figured in, the 3 bag powerflow. I don't think this has been brought up yet, but that powerflow isn't available on the 2210 from Deere, actually Deere doesn't have any collection system yet. (obviously trac-vac and other companies do).
I just wanted to point that out, not knowing how important bagging leaves or grass was to you..

It's amazing how the 2210 vs X595 issue just gets hammered to death on these boards!

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[powerstroke6ltr]

Well, that's another thing i totally forgot about...bagging? I prefer the grass and occasional leaves bagged, and i also don't like baggers which clog often, i.e. sears. After knowing what was said, I'm leaning more towards the 595, because a fairly strong loader, 4wd, and a good bagger are the most important features. Does john deere's powerflow work good?
thanks

 

[Dutch445]

I've seen no complaints with the powerflow baggers. They work much better than the smaller deck bagging systems that don't have a blower.
The 3 bag system is good sized, or you can get the MC519 cart to pull behind the tractor, they dump easier than the 3 bag bagger and hold more material.

 

[powerstroke6ltr]

is there a large $$ difference between a 3 bag powerflow and a pull behind cart?

 

[WilliamWallace]

A JD Dealer here in Nashua, NH quoted me a 2210 with the X595 bagger. He said he would need to create a special hook to attach the bagger to the 3 PT hitch. He had measured everything and said it was very doable. He was confident enough to provide me a price quote on it. I'm sure your dealer could help you with that too.

 

[JDFANATIC]

Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure I saw a post here with one of the members who had done this.

 

[powerstroke6ltr]

that sounds intersting...will any warranties be voided by modifying the bagger then? Now I thought of something else...with the extra weight of the 2210, it obviously would be better at towing, but would the X595 be able to tow a tow 650 lbs. tractors w/o damaging anything? Of course, this is assuming it has the traction... Also, is the hydro on the 595 quiet, and why is there no choice for gear? thanks a million for all the help! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[powerstroke6ltr]

One more thing...do the 2210 and 595 have auto-bleed...i.e. do you need to do anything special if you run the tank dry, or just cycle the key s few times? That may be the 4000 series....thanks

 

[jcmseven]

Powerstroke,
The 595 will tow much more than the weight you mentioned. It will tow as much as the 2210. The additional weight of the 2210 makes little, if any difference, in the towing ability over a 595. Both tractors would pull a monstrous amount of weight relative to their size. In addition, most users of these size machines like the efficiency of the hydro in these size machines. Because of their size, they are chosen frequently for small areas and back and forth work. They also have relatively high power to weight ratios which makes the minimal power loss associated with the hydrostatic transmission and non-factor. A gear drive tractor in this size simply would not sell for these reasons. I must also note that perhaps you should operate one of these machines soon. Although it is nice to discuss their respective benefits, the final decision must be which one feels best to you and your pocketbook. I can tell you that in this size machine, there are no finer tractors available (although several manufacturers have good machines); and in the 595, you are seeing a tractor that certainly has no equal in its class. Good luck with your selection. I do not think you could make a bad one.

John M.

 

[powerstroke6ltr]

yeah, that's a good idea... Need to find time first, but I plan on operating a 595 and 2210 and possibly a 4000 series, for larger work...all comes down to what the consumer feels more comfortable with... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif thanks again

 

[JDFANATIC]

powerstroke,

As for towing, I acree with jcmseven, both tractors have more than adequate power, and 650 lbs on a level surface should be no problem. But if you have any slope issues, then stopping and remaining in control will have you looking for weight (ballast) very quickly. The 2210 weighs ~ 400 lbs more than the X, depending on the model, that is a good start. Even still, you may need to look at weights, loading the tires etc. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Just a safety .02

 

[2nstonge]

Regarding the MC519 cart and blower...I wasn't a fan of it. I used it with an x585. It's powered by a drive belt that's added to the MMM, it seemed to have enough power & suction but something about the design of if as the material (leaves, grass, whatever) transitioned from the deck to the chute caused it clog quite often. On my little 2 acre patch I would have to shut down the tractor, disconnect the chute and pull material from it so many times it became a frustrating chore. Once I was back up and running I'd then have to deal with this pile of stuff that had been removed. The cart itself was handy when used seperately, but if you opt for a FEL the need for a tow behind cart may be minimal. So, whether you go for the 595 or the 2210 I would encourage you to look at some of the other bagging options.

Best, -Norm

 

[JDFANATIC]

powerstroke,

Sorry about the lag, but yes, all Deere tractors today are auto-bleed. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[powerstroke6ltr]

MAn is that nice...but then why do the specs say mechanical bleed then? "No tools req'd" Does that just mean that it will mechanically bleed itself??? Driven lots of older deeres w/o that option....MAN IS IT ANNOYING...then again, only a fool would run out of fuel /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Can a 3 bagger be put on a 2210, thanks for the replies!!