Yanmar 177

[brionjohnson]

I have a Yanmar 177 that I'd like to find parts for. I've checked with Yanmar's online web site and they claim to have no idea what that model is. I checked with a few other places like Yanmar Tractor Parts, Sales, Service, and Delivery. and Sheaffer's Town & Country Tractor and Yanmar tractor owner's new website and Antique Tractors - Yesterday's Tractors : Antique Tractor Headquarters. I can't find anyone to help me out. All I really want to do is an oil filter change and fuel filter change. The tractor works great... Thanks for any help/advice!

 

[Soundguy]

I'm surprised Len at Schwaffers couldn't help you.

The 177 is confusing to many people who are used to seeing the 3 digit models as american domestic models.. when in reality.. the 177 is a grey market.. much like it's cousin the 1700.. though older.

I have seen discussions.. ( years back ) about the 177 in the yanmar forum.

If all else fails, I'd get some part numbers for oil filters that fit other yanmar engines inthat size range, and then cross those to napa filters.. then take your filter down and match the oring diamarter and nipple.. etc. hopefully the other features like backflow valve and such will be close as it was for a similar engine.

For a fuel filter.. i went down to napa with my 1700's filter and found a 'will fit' by opening a bunch of boxes and compairing. And alstly.. you can change the fuel filter housing if needed to something more conventional.. etc..

Soundguy

Soundguy

 

[brionjohnson]

ok, I know it's a 2 cylinder 2 wheel drive model. Where do I find some other similar engines/tractors to get an oil filter and fuel filter to compare?

 

[Dick_Jermyn]

Take a look at your engine and see if a model number is stamped into the casting. This model engine number will tip off our supply members as to the filters that you will need. Good luck.

Dick Jermyn

 

[Soundguy]

I'd be looking at the 1500/1600/1700 / 155-195-240 range

But as the other poster said.. the engine number will be the 'clue'.. etc..

Soundguy

 

[Inspector507]

The YM177 is one of the rare 3 digit Japanese models. Len Sheaffer posted in the Yahoo group 5 years ago that the closest manual to that model would be the YM240 (a US model). That doesn't mean that the parts will fit, but it is the closest to fitting what you have.

 

[California]

If you're really stuck try a 1334 oil filter. It is a common model for Honda (many years) and a lot of other stuff including most older Yanmars.

Since we can crank these with compression released to circulate some oil, I don't think leakdown is as critical as on a car that will fire up dry. So if you can't find good docs this should be sufficient so long as it seems to screw on properly.

As for the fuel filter - it may be undocumented but see if its dimensions match the common small Yanmar element in HoyeTractor's online parts listing. If so, I would order from him in appreciation of him putting that information online.

 

[LMTC]

The 177 shares very few parts with later tractors. I had two many years ago, and liked them a lot. I wouldn't touch one now because parts will be all but impossible. We have almost every thing, but we do not have a parts book for a 177. Filters may well be the same as the 1700, as many models are, but parts beyond that would baffle me. First thing I would do is focus on finding someone with the parts book.

 

[brionjohnson]

I found the model # on the engine. It is 2W80-00589. The tractor works great and it was "given" to me by a neighbor. It also has some Japanese and then 2W80 and a 753 next to it. Thanks to all for their replies. Now that I found the model # of the engine. Where would I look to find a parts/service manual for it (or one like it). I also can take pictures if that would help. Thanks again!

 

[brionjohnson]

Oh yeah, it also has some other numbers by the model number (which is YM177 and a serial # of 01685). It says 753 cc and 17ps/2800 RPM. What does that mean? I assume it means what kind of power but I can't find something that translates that.

 

[mark777]

Brion,

I have lists of models and specifications that go way back...but when I discuss the YM177 it's always the same, long pauses and blank stares. In fact, to this day, I was searching for the engine number and just found it in your post.

Can't remember if I've ever suggested to a Yanmar owner to sell one and go with something else...but in this instance you might consider a future purchase of a better supported Yanmar tractor. Or keep it in the off chance that it has that very rare residual value to a collector of small diesel tractors.

It pains me to say this but eventually all tractors break, and in your case parts will have to be replicated by an experienced machine shop or foundry, and those costs will be prohibitive considering your options.

Good luck,

Mark

 

[brionjohnson]

Ok, but how can I sell it now with a clear conscious? Who would buy it? The other frustrating thing is that I just put a loader on it through EFC machinery. They said that it should be no problem to find parts and they deal with tractors like mine everyday. Well, now it doesn't seem so. The whole thing is frustrating me. At any rate, thanks for all the help on this forum, I will use this forum for now on for advice.

 

[MJPetersen]

EFC and Buck are one of the best dealers out there. They are on this forum also. Maybe he knows something that we do not.

Talk to him again, explain in detail what you have said here, and see what he says.

Mike

 

[HoyeTractor]

I do have a YM177 parts manual. When you called about the filters I just asked you to measure the size of your fuel filter so I could be sure our filter would fit. I didn't say I could not help.


Aaron
Parts@HoyeTractor.com
(940)592-0181

 

[EFC]

They said that it should be no problem to find parts and they deal with tractors like mine everyday. Well, now it doesn't seem so.

I did not say parts would be "no problem" what I said is "we should be able to find you Parts". Which is true. Because I can find you parts does not mean the whole world can or even that one other person can. I didn’t say all parts are on a shelf readily available to any knuckle draggin Joe without an ounce of effort. OEM Parts for older tractors take time, sometimes a lot of time and diligent effort. Sometimes they are even d**m expensive. Doesn’t mean they are not available. The good news is what isn’t available can be rebuilt or manufactured. How do you think we support the tractors we sell? Better yet how do you think we support any Ford, Massey or the like from the same era?

I put a quality loader on your tractor for a great price. I wasn’t telling you I could help with parts to sell a loader, In fact I am 15 loaders behind right now and we pushed other customers back to focus on your tractor because you had such a long drive. I told you I could find parts because that is what I was willing to do, regardless of the fact that I didn’t sell you the tractor. I would have been willing even if you bought nothing from me.

Buck

 

[brionjohnson]

Hi Buck! I sent you a personal email as well. Just so everyone knows (as I guess it didn't come across in my posts)... I am extremely satisfied with EFC and Buck's work and the loader. My frustration is that parts for it are not available. I am willing to do whatever is necessary (in fact I have spent probably 30 hours on this research) to keep my tractor running properly. All I want to know is *if* parts are available when/where can I get them. This tractor was given to me by someone close to me as an inheritance and I want it to live on. Thanks to all again...

 

[MJPetersen]

Buck and Aaron prove again why we are so fortunate to have them participate in this forum.

Thank you and all the dealers that we rely for information and parts for our "antiques".

Mike

 

[brionjohnson]

I wholeheartedly agree with MJPetersen. I spoke with Aaron and sent him some measurements and pictures of the filters. I also exchanged some emails with Buck... We'll get there, and again I'll reiterate that my frustration is not with any person, it's just the situation of trying to find parts for something that has no real monetary value....It's just a personal value... I appreciate EVERYONE's help, you guys are the best!

 

[HoyeTractor]

I got your pictures and the YM177 is nothing like any other yanmar I have seen. It does look like, according to my parts manuals, that the YM270 & YM273 also use the same setup but they are equally rare. Would it be possible to post your pictures here? I can post them for you if you would like.


Aaron
Parts@HoyeTractor.com
(940)592-0181

 

[brionjohnson]

yes please post them... In fact, if it would help I could take any number of pictures and post them... thanks again everyone...