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YM 1300D . I just bought one of these little tractors last nite for the wife for her gardens & had it delivered , I Bought it sight unseen . seems to be a nice little tractor , He said it was 18 hp But I,m not sure thats correct , but noticed the engine is a little bit noisier ( bottom end ) then My bigger tractors . I,m wondering if thats normal for these or should I pull the pan & look into it further ?

Its 4 wd , pto, 3pt . real nice shape & has 400 hours on it . I bought it for 1,350 Delivered from out of town , seemed like a good buy to me .

Can Anyone share any info & attachment limits on it , as it has no manual with it . Thanks in advance . Bob
 
   / Yanmar 3100 #2  
The 2 cylinder yanmars make so much noise that I doubt you could hear a rod knock. The are nice tractors and tough. The 1300 has 13 hp at the pto and 15 engine hp. Did you get it from a dealer? There are lots of parts for the little work horses.

Mike
 
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Thanks Mike , Glad to here its normal to be noisy & Parts are available . No Dealer , I Bought it from an individual that out grew it & bought a bigger john dear tractor .

I Didn,t do any research on it & Bought it off of Craigslist a few minutes after it was posted because I thought it sounded fairlly cheap .

Any Idea of how big of a fish mower it could handle ? i have a 5 foot caroni I was going to sell because I upgraded to a 6 footer for My Bigger Iseki . Think that would be to much for it. Also what size tiller should I be looking for. Thanks again. Bob
 

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   / Yanmar 3100 #4  
hi Bob, since you already have the 5' finish mower you could give it a try. though i'm sure 13 pto hp would not be enough to tackle thick grass or close cuts, my 16 pto hp struggles in thick stuff with my 5' finish mower. it should work, but mowing would most likely need to be done more frequent. a 4' finish mower would perform the best for the YM1300D i will guess for general lawn care. with the 5' finish mower i again also will asume that the travel speed will need to be slow as not to bog down the tractor and/or make passes cutting 4' or less.

someone will step in that has one, they can give better advice from experience with that model.

EDIT: LMTC is right, safety is an issue not to be overlooked. i never operate my tractor above 7th gear with any implement. usually 6th gear for either finish or rotary cutting.
whenever an implement is raised at or above the rear axle, possible rollover becomes an issue of safety. that is sharp fast turns can become deadly even on flat ground. keeping the 3pt weight below the rear axle is safest if possible, along with never being in a hurry.
 
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It's not a question of HP for the most part, though in some circumstances that will become a limiting factor. The 5' mower is too heavy for an 1100# tractor. Even a 4' mower will cause that unit to fishtail if you make a hard turn. Get a 4' and be aware that your turns need to be moderate. When you turn hard that mower is a 400# tail whipping around and it wants to continue in motion after the turn, thus causing a sliding, or fishtailing, of the rear of the tractor. BTDT with a 1300 and a 5' mower.

Email us if you want a pdf of the aftermarket parts book (if your ISP will allow a 9,000KB download).
 
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Hi & Thanks rhett & LMTC , Thats the kind of info I,m lookin for . Safety is My biggest concern as I Bought it for My wife . I,ll scrap the mower idea as I can see where that could be a problem .

We have 2 Lawn tractors for up around the house & gardens & I use My Bigger tractors with a bushhog & finishmower for Mowing the rest of the property , so thats not Really an issue .

She,s Mainlly wanting it for around the house Hauling things around , garden supplys , weedeaters & such & Limb pickup. I Dont really want to install a loader on it . So I,m thinking of a Box of some type for the 3 point & maybe build a little dump trailor to pull behind it .

Also She would like to be able to till with it . any ideas on size or type of tiller .


I Also saved the link to Your website LMTC . So I will send You an email as soon as I check it out a bit more .

The Only problem I have noticed so far is the gear shift seems loose & spins from side to side . Any thoughts on what could be causing that ?

Sorry for all the Questions , but this brand & size is very new to Me. Thanks again to all. Bob
 
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Only problem I have noticed so far is the gear shift seems loose & spins from side to side . Any thoughts
My Yanmar started doing that, and I had to replace the 75 cent rollpin that secures the shift lever into a plastic ball at the top of the transmission. It has to be a metric rollpin - I tried a fractional inch one and it wasn't snug. Just roll the rubber shifter boot up and you can see the rollpin.

Yanmars are near bulletproof. That was my only repair, after owning it five years!
 
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noticed the engine is a little bit noisier ( bottom end ) ...should I pull the pan & look into it further ?
Sounds like six big guys hammering with sledges on a manhole cover? That's the sound of raw power! Everything's normal. They all do that. (All the two-cylinder Yanmars).

Power Service - silver bottle - Cetane improver will tame that racket a little. I don't think American diesel has as high cetane rating as what is sold in Japan.

I'm experimenting running high proportion biodiesel (0.5 gallon petrodiesel + 5 gallons biodiesel, about B90) and this runs like Yanmar probably intended. It's a lot smoother.
 
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Thanks California , Sounds like a simple fix & I have an assortment of rollpins . Also good to here You,ve had Great luck with Your,s. I,ll post what I find out , But Makes sense as its not really loose just swivels. thanks again . Bob.

Just Caught the second post, also Great to know as I also have 2 Isekis . Thanks again. Bob
 
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hi again Bob, i did a Yanmar subforum search for "YM1300" and there was 44 related threads. some posts have responses the 40" to 48" cutters are no problem. as for tillers again no problem, just get right size.
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also take a look at these posts
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/34539-questions-about-small-4x4-yanmars.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/13177-ym1300-ym1300d.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/55873-yanmar-1100-1300-good-enough.html
even better, use the search feature of forum to help generalize your reading for needed information.

Good Luck, Be Safe and Enjoy, One of "Soundguy's" tallying up the benefits of your new purchase was awesome and to the point.
 
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Hi rhett & Thanks again for the links & info . After checking it out more I have other Problems I need to adress first. if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.

First off , Thanks California It was exactlly as You described, it was broke in 3 pieces , I stuck a screw in there for a test drive & i,ll get the right rollpin because mine dont fit quite right.

He Said it had No leaks, I can see why the front differental was dry . Leaking around the bottom of the steering Knuckles on both sides . It hasn,t been serviced or greased for years. so after replacing some grease zerts it Steers pretty good . Where the Hydraulic fluid goes is milky white & low . so i filled it also just for a quick test drive .

Sorry . but My main question is when I drove it to check it out for other problems all seemed to be Pretty good But the Milky white fluid came out from what seems to be vent tubes on both sides top of the differtial under the seat . What appears to be Whats left of the hoses I,m assuming is how the Moisture or water got in.

can Anyone tell Me how or where there suposed to be routed ? From one side to the other because nothing is obvious other then that .

The PTO works fine, & no leaking from the rear other then where its coming out from I think is the vent hoses & I,ll drain it completlly & flush it as needed as I Doubt its been run much like this & came from Him doing a quick power wash on it .

Its just going to be Used by the Wife around the garden & yard
& I want all issues to be fixed before She gets on it . So any info, pics whatever would be of great help . I do all the work Myself but need Guidence in whats goes where at Least untill I get a manual. Thanks again to all. Bob
 
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Just a WAG, tell me if I guessed right, but on my next larger size Yanmar those two hoses vent the brake drum enclosures. They end under the seat cushion because that's how deep the Japanese rice farmers submerge these things. On mine the tranmission is vented by an 'inverted J' pipe that comes up out of the top of the differential housing near the back of the seat. As I said, I have no idea if my description is relevant to your model.

Have you discovered the exploded parts diagrams on HoyeTractor.com? Those can help show how things fit together.
 
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Thanks again for the link. The vents I,m speaking of very well could be what you say. But both appear to have a rotted off hose on the top only sticking up a inch at the most.

Thats where the fluid is Shooting out of while Driving. I,m thinking They may Just suposed to connect to each other to keep the Moisture out & Vent through the trans tube You talk about. Does that Make sense ? I,m Also guessing He shot the Preasure washer directlly in them causing the milky white fluid . Thanks again I,ll study that link . Bob
 
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The brake enclosures are sealed aside from those air vents, on mine. This keeps transmission oil off the brake parts.

I don't think you need to replace the rotted hoses, assuming you don't intend to go in water deep enough to reach the top of those tubes.

If your brakes work properly, then I think you are correct that he simply shot the pressure washer in there which is harmless. If you are fanatical you might pull the brake covers and look around. I wouldn't bother, myself.

Hmmm... If there is water in the front axle and water in the brake enclosures, maybe you got a Katrina underwater tractor. Is there any chance of that?
 
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The brake enclosures are sealed aside from those air vents, on mine. This keeps transmission oil off the brake parts.

I don't think you need to replace the rotted hoses, assuming you don't intend to go in water deep enough to reach the top of those tubes.

If your brakes work properly, then I think you are correct that he simply shot the pressure washer in there which is harmless. If you are fanatical you might pull the brake covers and look around. I wouldn't bother, myself.

Hmmm... If there is water in the front axle and water in the brake enclosures, maybe you got a Katrina underwater tractor. Is there any chance of that?


Anythings possible I recon California . But Theres no Moisture in the front axle. just the rear. I Only noticed the milky fluid when I checked it. but when i took it on a small test run The Fluid shot out of those 2 vent holes where the hoses appear to be broke off.

Now I couldn,t find a dipstick to check the level I Could have probablly filled it to full but I kept it below the plug level by an inch or so.

I Just took a few pics to Show the tubes I,m describing , but i,m not sure you can Make it out. as well as both sides of where the front axle is leaking . the first 2 pics the hoses I,m talkin about are about in the middle on the lower edge Right against the red fender . the last 2 are where the front axle has a little play & leaking pretty bad . Thanks Bob
 

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Here's the exploded diagram for mine on Hoye's site. ( I don't see a diagram for yours). In the diagram #49 is the vent hose and #41 is a fitting to attach the hose to the brake housing. Is yours like this? If so, it should be a dry brake enclosure with that vent hose as the only opening.
 
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They appear to be in the same location but thats where the fluid comes out. heres 4 more pics that will hopefully show them.

They are Right against the inside of fender . & just to the right of the bolt thats covered with the milky fluid the other side is the same as well . Sorry But I,m not goos at takin picks or explaining things very well. But I sure do apreciate Your time. & thanks again . Bob
 

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Bob, hopefully somebody will show up who has that model and can give better advice than my WAG's.

I wish I knew more about that model. All I know is yours and mine were made about the same time, so I expect they have similar designs. Beyond that, you need somebody who knows what he is talking about.:D
 
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Bob, hopefully somebody will show up who has that model and can give better advice than my WAG's.

I wish I knew more about that model. All I know is yours and mine were made about the same time, so I expect they have similar designs. Beyond that, you need somebody who knows what he is talking about.:D

No Problem , But I Sure Apreciate Your help though so far . At Least this forum for Yanmars dont appear to be as Lonelly as the Iseki are . :D . Bob
 
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Anythings possible I recon California . But Theres no Moisture in the front axle. just the rear. I Only noticed the milky fluid when I checked it. but when i took it on a small test run The Fluid shot out of those 2 vent holes where the hoses appear to be broke off.

Now I couldn,t find a dipstick to check the level I Could have probablly filled it to full but I kept it below the plug level by an inch or so.

I Just took a few pics to Show the tubes I,m describing , but i,m not sure you can Make it out. as well as both sides of where the front axle is leaking . the first 2 pics the hoses I,m talkin about are about in the middle on the lower edge Right against the red fender . the last 2 are where the front axle has a little play & leaking pretty bad . Thanks Bob

Dipstick

Danny
 

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