Yanmar fluids

[Lunarius]

Hello together,

is it possible to use a 5-40W Diesel engine oil instead an 15-40W, since I work in the winter by about 15 ｰF with my YM2220D, or should I stay with the recommended 15-40W?
Does it have to be synthetic or partially synthetic oil?

The 90wt oil is recommended for the front axle (4wd). Unfortunately, I do not find this in Germany, only this one, is this the right one?
GL 90

Thx a lot!

Ren

 

[JCByrd24]

I run 5W-40 in my 1986 Yanmar, as do many others who live in cold climates. I believe it's actually better for it that 15W-40.

I cannot access the link on the gear oil, but the front ends are likely to tolerate almost any lube. JD has gone from 75W-90 to their low viscosity hydraulic oil as the recommended lube in their front ends. Any current day lube is likely to outperform what was available when that tractor was built.

 

[California]

Hello together,

is it possible to use a 5-40W Diesel engine oil instead an 15-40W, since I work in the winter by about 15 ｰF with my YM2220D, or should I stay with the recommended 15-40W?
Does it have to be synthetic or partially synthetic oil?

The 90wt oil is recommended for the front axle (4wd). Unfortunately, I do not find this in Germany, only this one, is this the right one?
GL 90

Thx a lot!

Ren

I see the GL-90 gear oil you linked conforms to specification API GL-3 and is viscosity SAE 90. That was a current spec when these tractors were built but that spec has been superseded by more modern specs for better oil, GL-4 and GL-5. I expect the later oils will be easier to find where you are. All are extremely common for rear-wheel-drive automotive rear axles and similar applications so anything suitable for that, will work for your front axle.

Here's the publication (PDF) from the author of those specs, that describes the improvements:

http://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Ce...lications/1560-Eighth-Edition-April-2013.pdf

 

[Lunarius]

I run 5W-40 in my 1986 Yanmar, as do many others who live in cold climates. I believe it's actually better for it that 15W-40.

I cannot access the link on the gear oil, but the front ends are likely to tolerate almost any lube. JD has gone from 75W-90 to their low viscosity hydraulic oil as the recommended lube in their front ends. Any current day lube is likely to outperform what was available when that tractor was built.

I see the GL-90 gear oil you linked conforms to specification API GL-3 and is viscosity SAE 90. That was a current spec when these tractors were built but that spec has been superseded by more modern specs for better oil, GL-4 and GL-5. I expect the later oils will be easier to find where you are. All are extremely common for rear-wheel-drive automotive rear axles and similar applications so anything suitable for that, will work for your front axle.

Thanks, I'll do the oil change then with a 5-40W diesel engines oil :thumbsup:
Does it have to be synthetic or partially synthetic oil for the engine?

I have found a 80W-90 (GL-90, is it the same?) gear oil for the front axle, now the have different variants like GL-3, GL-4 and GL-5 .. which is the right one?

@ California
Thanks for the link, but my english is not good enough to understand everything .. sorry

 

[California]

80W-90 is the modern replacement for 90. Both of these numbers represent viscosity. 80W means better in Winter, while modern 80W90 is as good in hot weather as the old specification single-viscosity 90).

But to simplify this: anything sold there that is the common lubricant for the rear axle of a modern rear-wheel-drive automobile, is suitable for your front axle.

 

[Lunarius]

Thanks California, then I'll get some 80W-90 GL-3 for the front axle, do you know roughly how much I need?

As I saw today, there was just so much oil in the Transmission-/Hydraulicbox that it just covert the first cross on the dipstick.
Unfortunately, I do not know exactly which oil was taken bevor, now I would like to add some new oil, is mixing okay or problematic?
I would not change all the liquids until January when I have time.

Is this one right and how much do I need with FEL?
http://mannol.de/en/?action=accessory_chemical_preview&name=Multi UTTO WB 101
Spec.:

MANNOL Multi UTTO WB 101 API GL-4
Oils for agricultural machinery > Standard engine oils

Corresponds with requirements / specifications / products:
API GL-4
VOLVO WB 101
JOHN DEERE J20C/J20D
FORD M2C134D/M2C86(A&B)/M2C134(A&C)
MASSEY-FERGUSON CMS M1135/M1143/M1145
CNH MAT 3525/3526
J.I.CASE MS-1204/1206/1207/1209
NH 410B/420A
NEW HOLLAND 82948718
KUBOTA UDT Fluid
ALLISON C-4
JCMAS HK P-041
CATERPILLAR TO-2
I.H.C B-5&B-6 Hydran
OLIVER Type 55/Type5J/Q1802
WHITE Q-1705/1722/1766/1766B(UHTF)/1802/1826
DENISON HF-(0-2)
SPERRY VICKERS I-280-S&M2950S
SAUER-SUNDSTRAND&DANFOSS Hydro Static Transfluid
ZF TE-ML 03E
ZF TE-ML 03F
ZF TE-ML 05F
ZF TE-ML 06K

Without you guys, I would be lost

 

[California]

I can't get to that ravenol link.
UTF, 'Universal Tractor Fluid' is the name here for the fluid used in a large number of tractors. Look for a multi grade UTF. If every brand of tractor is listed on the container, it will serve. And various brands/grades of UTF can be mixed.

 

[clemsonfor]

Yes you can mix the gear oils , what's in there with what you bought. As for the GL 3,4,5 it's just new specs. There all backwards compatible. So old stuff can use either spec. But a new application that specs GL5 , you should not use a GL3 oil in. There different additives and such. Your tractor was made in a controlled that did not have those specs and really before the third iteration of that spec was probably out. The spec is put out by API or the American Petroleum Institute. ..which is what I mean a counter that does not use that spec.

As for the oil should for these applications it won't matter full or part syn. But I was thinking that 5w40 was only availible in full syn since the span in oil weights is so large. But I could be wrong I have not looked at that weight oil really. And I don't know what I'd availible over there.

 

[Lunarius]

Thx guys!

Link should work now.
In Germany it is probably called UTTO = Universal Tractor Transmission Oil.

Can someone tell me how much oil I need for the engine, ft axel and transmission/hydraulic?

PS:
Something else, how can I add my avatar picture here?

 

[Kaloyan]

You can use John Deere Hy-Gard Hydraulik- u. Getriebeöl