Yanmar fluids

[Lunarius]

Thx, I already ordered online yesterday:
20 liter Transmission/Hydraulic oil --> MANNOL Multi UTTO WB 101 GL-4 (J20C & J20D)
8 liter front axel oil --> MANNOL SAE 80W-90 universal gear oil API GL-4
4.5 liter Coolant concentrate --> Glysantin G48
should hopefully be the right fluids now.

 

[marksold187]

Thanks, I'll do the oil change then with a 5-40W diesel engines oil :thumbsup:
Does it have to be synthetic or partially synthetic oil for the engine?

I have found a 80W-90 (GL-90, is it the same?) gear oil for the front axle, now the have different variants like GL-3, GL-4 and GL-5 .. which is the right one?

@ California
Thanks for the link, but my english is not good enough to understand everything .. sorry

FOR ALL PEOPLE LOOKING AT OIL QUESTIONS PLEASE NOTE THIS IMPORTANT SET OF FACTS:

OLD SINGLE VALUE OIL CALLOUTS ARE BASED ON HOW THICK THE OIL IS AT 200 DEGREES F , AS IT "IT ACTS LIKE A STANDARD OIL".
WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH DUAL OIL CALLOUTS AS IN 75W90, THE FIRST NUMBER IS WHAT THE OIL ACTS LIKE WHEN IT IS 32 DEGREES F.

SO WHEN THE MOTOR IS WORKING ALONG, YOU GET THE THICKNESS OF NUMBER 2. WHEN ITS COLD YOU GET THE PROPERITES OF NUMBER 1. SO ITS NO ISSUE USING OIL WITH A LOW NUMBER (SYNTHETIC OIL NATURALLY ACTS THIS WAY). WHERE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR MINDS USUALLY IS WHEN THEY DONT GET THE FACT THAT ITS ALL RELATIVE:

75 W90 = OIL IS AS THICK OR THICKER AT 32 DEGRESS F AS A STRAIGHT 90 WEIGHT IS A 200 DEGREES. IT IS MUCH EASIER ON THE EQUIPMENT AT COLD TEMERATURES BECAUSE IT FLOWS, NO TURNED TO MUD.

SAME WITH 5-40. ITS JUST ALL A BENEFIT TO THE MOTOR IN COLDER WEATHER.

ANOTHER NOTE - GEAR OIL AND ENGINE OIL WERE PURPOSLY MADE TO LOOK LIKE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT NUMBERS SO PEOPLE WOUDL NOT MIX THEM UP. GEAR OIL TRULY DOES CONTAIN MORE AND EXTRA STUFF THAN MOTOR OIL. ITS MORE OF A PROBLEM IF YOU PUT GEAR OIL IN AN ENGINE THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND. SOME APPLICAITONS YOU CAN PUT MOTOR OIL IN A TRANSMISSION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL OIL DATA YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE NUMBERS THESE DAYS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. 75-90 IS LIKE 5-30 FOR REFERENCE.

 

[kenmac]

Thanks, I'll do the oil change then with a 5-40W diesel engines oil :thumbsup:
Does it have to be synthetic or partially synthetic oil for the engine?

No it doesn't have to be synthetic, or a synthetic blend. Regular ole dino oil will work just fine.
Now, if you are using during the winter, you might want to consider synthetic for better cold engine start ups

 

[bmaverick]

Hello together,

is it possible to use a 5-40W Diesel engine oil instead an 15-40W, since I work in the winter by about 15 ｰF with my YM2220D, or should I stay with the recommended 15-40W?
Does it have to be synthetic or partially synthetic oil?

The 90wt oil is recommended for the front axle (4wd). Unfortunately, I do not find this in Germany, only this one, is this the right one?
GL 90

Thx a lot!

Ren

Per the Yanmar.jp website, you can run 5W30 and 10W30 in the YM, F and FX series tractors. If temps exceed 85F, 15W40 is preferred.

I had saved off those pages in PDF along with other tractor items per the Yanmar series mentioned.

Why make the tractor work even harder and hard starting in the winter with 15W40 in the crank case ???

Now why did I search this out about the oil in the first place on the Yanmar site? When I had gotten the YM2610 totally restored by Fredrick's, I had asked them what oil was in the crank-case. They replied 10W30. So, that's all I've ever used int the tractor. For one, it's way cheaper than 15W40 anyway.

I just couldn't find anything on the Yanmar USA sites. Not even under the Yanmar Marine. This was all back in 2014.

So, for JCByrd24 5W40 isn't a big deal, but 10W30 would suffice to be the better of the bunch. 5 weight vs. 10 weight at 32F is the difference. Long as you are not working the engine hard. It sure makes for easy starting in the cold. Next week is only 5F as the low. If I need to plow the snow first thing in the morning the Yanni girl will be ready.

ALSO, the 10w30 makes turning the engine over really nice. It reduces starter wear and with easy running, less smoke out the exhaust. I had convinced another Yanmar owner of a YM1720 to change from 15W40 to 10W30. It was like night and day with less exhaust smoke out the exhaust pipe. Tim also said the tractor actually felt like it got a few extra Hp out of the deal too. I told him the YM1720 is now back to it's peak Hp once again. The 15W40 is for the AMERICAN IRON tractors for the most part.

I've attached the Yanmar.jp oil grades for Ag tractors page for reference.

 

[Katahdin]

I agree that 10W-30 is probably the preferred oil, that is what my 2012 Yanmar LX manual recommends. Make sure the label on the oil jug says its rated for diesel use, you probably won't find a 10W-30 rated for diesel use at Walmart or Tractor Supply. I purchased mine at NAPA, it was Rotella 10W-30.

That said, I see temps as low as -5 F, and I use my LX for snow removal. After using 10W-30 for the first year I switched to Rotella T6 5W-40 synthetic, it does start easier than 10W-30. Extra cranking isn't required, but there's less smoke, less sputtering, etc at freezing temperatures.

 

[Jtullis13]

To each their own on engine oil, it really depends on where you live. 10w30 sounds like a nice all year alternative, but in the winters here we get below zero a lot for days or even weeks at a time, so I elect to put 5w40 in mine and run it all year like that. Its full synthetic, easy to start and has the protection of 40 all year too, and I have not had any problems either. This makes it easy on me because we have 3 diesel cars, 2 diesel trucks and 2 diesel tractors and they all use the same oil.

 

[clemsonfor]

I don't think DIESEL rated 10w30 is any cheaper than 15w40. I would thi k it would cost more of anything cause they sell way less of it. Make sure you don't put gasoline rated 10w30 oil in it. It can't suspend the particulates (soot) the same way. Sure it will work but how much are you possibly shortening the life. They make "C" rated oils for a reason and "S" rated oils for a reason . C=compression ignition and S=spark ignition. The second letter of each's code is just the variation they make now. I think we may be on SI now and C? Now?

Most though like me don't want to pay for a syn oil in it, if I did I'd use 5w40. But I use Dino oil and do annual changes, with summer I me temps easily hitting 95 on th regular and often 100f and the fact I actually use my tractor regularly in those temps I am sticking to 15w40 and just let it warm up 10 to 20 mins in the winter before doing any real work.

 

[bmaverick]

For the most part, I run 10W30 because temps here in southern WI get down to 0F.

TSC does sell 10W30 for $14 1-gal jug. Shell Rotella T4, CJ-4. The 15W40 1-gal jug goes for $18. My YM2610 takes 19-quarts plus 1/2 quart for the filter. Thus, 5 jugs is needed. The 10W30 saves me $20 over the cost of 15W40. The 5W40 costs the same as the 15W40.

So, it's a win-win for 10W30 overall on my end. I also have Farm & Fleet out here too. I get a price break on a 5-gallon bucket for the 10W30 too.

 

[California]

TSC does sell 10W30 for $14 1-gal jug. Shell Rotella T4, CJ-4. The 15W40 1-gal jug goes for $18. My YM2610 takes 19-quarts plus 1/2 quart for the filter. Thus, 5 jugs is needed. The 10W30 saves me $20 over the cost of 15W40. The 5W40 costs the same as the 15W40.

So, it's a win-win for 10W30 overall on my end.

10W30 or 5W40 sound like a good idea for your climate.

Not sure I agree with your calcs however. TSC's 15W40 is presently $20 for a 2.5 gallon (10 quarts) jug. That's $8 per gallon.

 

[bmaverick]

10W30 or 5W40 sound like a good idea for your climate.

Not sure I agree with your calcs however. TSC's 15W40 is presently $20 for a 2.5 gallon (10 quarts) jug. That's $8 per gallon.

I was only comparing the Shell Rotella 10W30 to the Shell Rotella 15W40 grades. I didn't want to toss in the generic store brands. Someone mentioned the Shell Rotella to begin with, so that was my apples to apples in the cart comparison. LOL

Sure, I could go cheaper elsewhere. I would because TSC is like 45 miles from my place. Farm & Fleet are here in Janesville-WI. Wish there was a Rual King out this way. Even an ASC would be nice. We got a Harbor-Freight out here too. They carry some things for tractors. I was a bit surprised by that even.