You'll correct this.

[rScotty]

Working together is always the last resort.

Or twice the fun...

 

[2515R Dude]

I love working with mine, sometimes it ends up with a fight, sometimes it brings up great ideas, but it is always fun and I always have someone to blame for failures.

 

[scootr]

I love working with mine, sometimes it ends up with a fight, sometimes it brings up great ideas, but it is always fun and I always have someone to blame for failures.

Why didn't I think of that !

 

[mrmikey]

Something I could not do, work with the wife (now ex) Simple things she'd do backward....least ways to me it was. My daughter and I are exactly in sync, moving something we go the same way. Building something we have pretty much the same ideas and if we don't, it doesn't end up as a knock down drag 'em out fight.

 

[Eagle1]

Why didn't I think of that !

Because you like a happy life?

 

[Yander]

Oldest trick in the book, let me start and screw it up and he will fix it. I use it on my wife any time I want to wash something in the washing machine or cook something.

 

[scaredychicken]

looks like a prank i did once - uggh, i feel for ya

 

[groundcover]

My sister was saying she can get the dog to look where she is pointing but her husband not so much !
They are both lawyers (not the dog) . Found that very amusing , not sure if they can work together or not .

 

[JasperFrank]

I'm using a center front to back string to center the pavers. So I set the centers first and work to the edges on either side. I'm finding that I'm losing it on the width, side to side spacing. We were not looking for perfection. Actually, we were looking for something that looked like it was set down centuries ago. Imperfections are a plus, so long as they are manageable. I'm not using poly sand. These will get seam grout. I got so frustrated, that I did have a contractor bid on finishing it. He said 4K. I paid him, gas and time, for coming out to look at it, even though he advertised free estimates... he was greatful for the gas and time money. And after talking with him, realized we were not on the same page. He wanted, everything to look perfectly aligned and the slope adjusted. I respect that. This will get done by July 4th. And it will look like something a peasant made 400 years ago. Which is exactly what we were looking for.

 

[Eagle1]

And it will look like something a peasant made 400 years ago. Which is exactly what we were looking for.

Now you're speaking my language, perfection is not often the look I want.

 

[ljjhouser]

Nice Job - looks good to me - Miller Time

 

[EddieWalker]

She says I'll just correct this.... Gottta love your wife even when it is hard to do so.
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Sorry for such a late comment on this, but I just found this thread.

My concern isn't he pavers, they are easy to pick up and do over. My concern is that it's extremely dangerous to not have a step, landing, deck, or something at the same height of the floor when walking out the door. Or at least within an inch of the floor height. I see the cinder block, and I guess that's what you step on to get in and out. You really need it all built up before messing with the pavers.

 

[CH4Ohio]

Why I quit booze

Why I started booze . . .

 

[jwmorris]

First thought ^

 

[JasperFrank]

The french doors are locked and have a big sign on the inside. We're not using these doors till the step goes in. Today the EZ Sand polymeric sand goes on. We got all the pavers spaced pretty well using the reference lines and using little plastic spacers. It was slow going, since we had to remove and reset two rows at a time. Wife didn't use the spacers when setting the pattern originally. This was an oversight on my part. So all the pavers needed to be pulled back and expanded sideways. for the 1/4 inch gaps. Very complicated with a random pattern. The stair will be mortared block with grouted slate fascia. The positioning of the pergola will determine the width of the stair. That's why it is being left to do later. I want the largest landing possible. I'm not concerned about the footing to the stair as under these pavers, there is a whole other layer of 12 x 12 pavers. That the upper level was mortared to. Originally I wanted to grout all the upper pavers. But looking at the complexity of the pattern, this seems a near impossible task to grout with out making a mess of it.

 

[LD1]

First time I have heard anyone intentionally gapping modern pavers.

 

[dodge man]

Just throwing out an idea but when we moved into our house there was no step from the garage into the house. My carpentry skills are lacking so I asked someone at work how to cut stairs. It only needs one step so he said build a box. I just screwed 2x4 together on edge and topped it with plywood. It’s about 3’ wide by 2’ deep. I can’t tell if your step could be done that way or if it will take 2 steps.

 

[EddieWalker]

A quick rule of thumb with steps. 7 inches in height is the goal, but since that's usually impossible, getting as close to 7 inches is the reality. Every step needs to be within a quarter inch of each other. A friend was sued over the steps being at different heights when a renter was injured from a fall. If my memory is correct, I think there was half an inch difference in each step, and it wasn't consistent, with some being more then seven inches, and some being less then seven inches.

A 2x6 on edge with another 2x board on the flat is the perfect height for steps.

When walking through a door, from the inside of a house, or building, to an area with steps, the top step, or landing, should be at the same height, or just under, the height of the interior floor. It's not uncommon to see the outside step be a full step down from the interior, and it's not uncommon for people to get used to it over time, but if an injury occurs from those steps, the home owner will be the one getting sued by the injured persons insurance because of the unsafe nature of those steps.