Your last generator Maintenance Run

   / Your last generator Maintenance Run
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#3,461  
Serviced yesterday. 7500 watt dual fuel started and ran.
Honda EU2000! new plug and oil change. Ran it for 10 minutes and shut the fuel off. Has Hutch Mountain switch. Ran till dry..
Honda EU1000I new plug and oil change. Installed Hutch Mountain switch. ran for 10 minutes and shut off the fuel valve. Ran till dry.
Both generators pulled the starter cord till compression felt. Both filled with ethanol free gas treated with fuel conditioner and Seafoam.

Not familiar with Hutch Mtn...... these guys ?

BEST Honda EU2i Propane/NG Conversion Kit | Hutch Mountain

Are you running that fuel converter, or another product ?

Edit - got it, I think.... Products | Hutch Mountain

Nice add-on.... thanks for posting :)

Rgds, D.
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #3,462  
I must apologize for posting that photo of my fuel consumption test on my Farymann diesel.
In my haste there were were errors in the calculations that I missed.
I have a revised excel spreadsheet with more data that I would post with formulas if someone can help me.


Thanks
90cummins
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #3,463  
I’m not sure how many GPH your generation consumes but the most of accurate method would be to weigh the fuel using a hanging electronic or spring scale.
Fill a 55 gallon drum attach your fuel hoses and suspend the tank.
Volume changes with temperature but with weigh (mass) there are no variables assuming scale is accurate.
You can also stick the drum level for comparison.
What is the kw rating of your generator.
You don稚 need to run 2 hours, 1 hour should give you good numbers.
I知 curious to see your results.
I have a spreadsheet I made for reducing the data, gph x time.
If I can find how to sent it as a working excel sheet I値l post it.
Good luck
90cummins

Correct, I was going to say the same thing (with better spelling). Fuel consumption verification is always done by weight. Also important to monitor voltage along with current as a change in voltage will change the actual kW load enough to skew the results.

For cost comparison, all in costs for a privately owned 1000kW fully automated prime power system with two 400kW and one 200kW units was 29.5 cents/kWh over 8 years including fuel and maintenance in a very remote location. The system ran different combinations of generators to keep load between 40- 80% most of the time.

The utility took over supply with their own generators and maintenance people and costs went up to near 40 cents to the end user.

Generally, traditional diesels are in peak efficiency in the 60-80% range however with full electronic engines the fuel consumption is nearly linear from about 20-90%. Below 20% parasitic load like direct drive cooling fans start to impact efficiency.

Also had an acquaintance in the Arctic (where Nat gas was available) who ran 4cyl ford gensets to power his house and ran the rad air under the house to supplement heat. He saved 1/2 - 2/3 on heating costs and his electricity cost was around 30 cents/kWh where the utility charges 59.5 /kwh so it was a huge saving for him. He ran them 2 years, replaced the head, ran another 2 years then replaced the entire unit and did this for many years that I knew him.
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #3,464  
I知 not sure how many GPH your generation consumes but the most of accurate method would be to weigh the fuel using a hanging electronic or spring scale.
Fill a 55 gallon drum attach your fuel hoses and suspend the tank.
Volume changes with temperature but with weigh (mass) there are no variables assuming scale is accurate.
You can also stick the drum level for comparison.
What is the kw rating of your generator.
You don� need to run 2 hours, 1 hour should give you good numbers.
I�・ curious to see your results.
I have a spreadsheet I made for reducing the data, gph x time.
If I can find how to sent it as a working excel sheet I蛟、l post it.
Good luck
90cummins


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   / Your last generator Maintenance Run
  • Thread Starter
#3,465  
I must apologize for posting that photo of my fuel consumption test on my Farymann diesel.
In my haste there were were errors in the calculations that I missed.
I have a revised excel spreadsheet with more data that I would post with formulas if someone can help me.


Thanks
90cummins

Issues posting the file ?

Rgds, D.
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run
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#3,467  
Meaning formulas active.... not sure.

I'd say post up, and we'll test it out. I usually use the paperclip for attachments in Advanced posting; anybody know a better way ?

Rgds, D.
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #3,468  
Correct, I was going to say the same thing (with better spelling). Fuel consumption verification is always done by weight. Also important to monitor voltage along with current as a change in voltage will change the actual kW load enough to skew the results.

For cost comparison, all in costs for a privately owned 1000kW fully automated prime power system with two 400kW and one 200kW units was 29.5 cents/kWh over 8 years including fuel and maintenance in a very remote location. The system ran different combinations of generators to keep load between 40- 80% most of the time.

The utility took over supply with their own generators and maintenance people and costs went up to near 40 cents to the end user.

Generally, traditional diesels are in peak efficiency in the 60-80% range however with full electronic engines the fuel consumption is nearly linear from about 20-90%. Below 20% parasitic load like direct drive cooling fans start to impact efficiency.

Also had an acquaintance in the Arctic (where Nat gas was available) who ran 4cyl ford gensets to power his house and ran the rad air under the house to supplement heat. He saved 1/2 - 2/3 on heating costs and his electricity cost was around 30 cents/kWh where the utility charges 59.5 /kwh so it was a huge saving for him. He ran them 2 years, replaced the head, ran another 2 years then replaced the entire unit and did this for many years that I knew him.

You said electronic engines are nearly linear between 20-90% load, are they also more fuel efficient?
If you had a personal choice which would you choose?

90cummins
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run
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#3,469  
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run
  • Thread Starter
#3,470  
Those spelling errors (not my fault) really bug me.
Only happens with this site and certain abbreviations.

90cummins

ipad or other Apple device ?

The only time I hit that type of glitch (non Apple here) is when I cut and paste some text from off-site, and re-post. In Advanced preview, I can see the glitches before posting, and correct them.

First World problems..... :)

Rgds, D.
 

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